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| IronHillRestorations |
 Nov 28 2006, 09:15 AM
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I. I. R. C.  Group: Members Posts: 6,731 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None 
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Just oil pressure bent that thing? I'm guessing that somehow it got stressed before it was put into service. Even if you had 100psi and it was going to fail, I could see a split or some sort separation, but to bend it all the way across the cooler???
Is there a T-Stat in the circuit? (I'm with the Cap'n on that) |
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| SLITS |
Nov 28 2006, 09:47 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
No T-stat in the scavenge line ..... didn't think it would be necessary.
If it was stressed prior to the installation, it happened in shipment or handling at the store. I was very careful (yes, I read the instructions) about distorting / twisting on installation. And yes, it was strictly pressure from my standpoint. I remember bagging on JP (I think) who blew up a Fluidyne in much the same manner. So, it really comes down to adding a T-Stat so the cooler doesn't see thick oil on startup or finding a cooler that is capable of handling the pressure (tube type vs plate sandwich type). |
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| Flat VW |
Nov 28 2006, 10:07 AM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
I suspect it may have been the 24lb. rubber mallet 'Mr. Careful' used to install it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/whack_3.gif)
John (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) P.S. I can send Shaggy over to assist you Ron, his speciality is all things Oil, you know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) |
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| SLITS |
Nov 28 2006, 10:19 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Flat VW @ Nov 28 2006, 08:07 AM)  P.S. I can send Shaggy over to assist you Ron, his speciality is all things Oil, you know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) Obviously you are not a well man as yet. I think you should contact Spock for a realignment of the molecules in your grey matter. The molecules appear to be seriously jumbled. Over exposure to trilithium crystals huh? Remember, I'm 61 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif) ....24 lb no way - 12 lb for sure. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
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| SLITS |
Nov 28 2006, 03:11 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
So, basically I was told to go fuck myself as I was trying to push cold oil thru the cooler and the filter was the restriction that caused the cooler to blow up. You should gut the filter so there is no pressure and place a remote filter on the suction line from the tank. I run 200 psi through one of these with no problems - yea right!
Oh well, I'm done with the six project ...... it can sit and rot in place. |
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| Aaron Cox |
Nov 28 2006, 03:31 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Nov 28 2006, 01:11 PM) go fuck myself that might make you feel better LOL sorry to hear it ronslitster.... find out why the motor is running hot... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)... fuel and timing are spot on.... its gotta be a blockage or restriction then.... or what else causes high oil temps? |
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| Brando |
Nov 28 2006, 04:08 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
A bad /6 engine...
Sorry Ron, had to say it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) The only way to truly know is ... split the case and rebuild it. I look at every "good, used running engine" as a rebuild candidate. |
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| SLITS |
Nov 28 2006, 07:16 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Brando @ Nov 28 2006, 02:08 PM) A bad /6 engine... Sorry Ron, had to say it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) The only way to truly know is ... split the case and rebuild it. I look at every "good, used running engine" as a rebuild candidate. Hmmmmmm, you must work for a Porsche Shop. Hi oil temps.... 1.) Insufficient cooling (head temps never over 325) 2.) Restriction in lines (all new) 3.) Shift in case (motor turns easily) 4.) Spun bearing (woulda blown up by now) 5.) Ton of shit on barrels (cleaned prior to installation) Timing & Fuel are spot on Next! |
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| Crazyhippy |
Nov 28 2006, 07:27 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
Low on coolant?
If an oil filter saw 200 PSI it would explode too... i've never seen one come off a healthy motor bulged... BJH |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Nov 28 2006, 08:46 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,731 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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Check the oil lines to make sure you don't have a restriction.
I had an oil pressure problem on a engine a customer and I put together (3.2 build up on a Euro Carrera 3.0). I built a stand that uses the factory oil tank, gauges, lines, blah, blah. So we start the engine and it would have some oil pressure and then it would go low right away. Fortunately I believed the gauge. The problem was one of the oil lines (braided stainless) had internally collapsed. I drained the oil, took off the lines and found one was restricted. You couldn't tell it by looking at the line. When I cut the line apart it looked like the aperature of a camera. BAT told me "I guess you've bought enough oil line to run into that, we see it very rarely, but it does happen". I wonder if they would have paid for an engine??? |
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| Brando |
Nov 28 2006, 08:50 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Nov 28 2006, 05:16 PM) Hmmmmmm, you must work for a Porsche Shop. Hi oil temps.... 1.) Insufficient cooling (head temps never over 325) 2.) Restriction in lines (all new) 3.) Shift in case (motor turns easily) 4.) Spun bearing (woulda blown up by now) 5.) Ton of shit on barrels (cleaned prior to installation) Timing & Fuel are spot on Next! 6.) Insufficient cooling for oil. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) And the unkown... 7.) Blocked or clogged oil passages inside the case. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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