 Do I have an LE?, What does this stubby VIN tell me anyway? |
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| warrenporsche |
  Nov 30 2006, 08:04 PM
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I am sure this has been posted before, but I cannot find it, Would my VIN be able to tell me if my car is an LE? it has been repainted badly in original white, has black sail panel trim strips, and what seems to be original black door handles along with an LE spoiler on it. Does any of this mean anything or is there just no way to tell this stuff!!
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| Pat Garvey |
Nov 30 2006, 08:43 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(warrenporsche @ Nov 30 2006, 11:04 PM)  I am sure this has been posted before, but I cannot find it, Would my VIN be able to tell me if my car is an LE? it has been repainted badly in original white, has black sail panel trim strips, and what seems to be original black door handles along with an LE spoiler on it. Does any of this mean anything or is there just no way to tell this stuff!! Well, This is my take on the LE's (and Jeff Bowlsby can step in here any time). The LE's were not produced in a VIN sequence. So, the ONLY way you'll get confirmation/denial as to LE status is to get a Certificate of Authenticity from PCNA. The fact that your car has a/an LE - type spolier doesn't prove it is an LE. There are hundreds of 914's out there with them. The black door handles? Not on a LE. I'm not aware of black door handles on any 914. |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Dec 1 2006, 02:30 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,485 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None 
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Look here for any answers you need:
http://members.rennlist.com/914_canam/ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| warrenporsche |
Dec 1 2006, 04:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Winston, GA Member No.: 5,456 |
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Dec 1 2006, 12:30 PM) Look here for any answers you need: http://members.rennlist.com/914_canam/ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) My doorhandles are silver ( chrome ) on all but the face, there they are plated or maybe very, very well painted black. I do not think this was done after production simply due to the perfect edges between the black and chrome areas. Pics to follow. |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 2 2006, 01:08 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,607 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Nov 30 2006, 06:43 PM) I'm not aware of black door handles on any 914. they were thinking about it ... from DGVWPB ... supposedly the "standard" version, no chrome or other bling ... Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| type4org |
Dec 2 2006, 05:18 AM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 2 2006, 02:08 AM) QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Nov 30 2006, 06:43 PM) I'm not aware of black door handles on any 914. they were thinking about it ... from DGVWPB ... supposedly the "standard" version, no chrome or other bling ... Love the looks of that. That's Clean with capital C. Perfection would be achieved with black sails. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) |
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| warrenporsche |
Dec 2 2006, 04:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Winston, GA Member No.: 5,456 |
QUOTE(type4org @ Dec 2 2006, 03:18 AM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 2 2006, 02:08 AM) QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Nov 30 2006, 06:43 PM) I'm not aware of black door handles on any 914. they were thinking about it ... from DGVWPB ... supposedly the "standard" version, no chrome or other bling ... Love the looks of that. That's Clean with capital C. Perfection would be achieved with black sails. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Fascinating stuff!! it has chrome bumpers right now but other than that, this is pretty close!! why does it appear that there is a Porsche crest on the hood, and if it is not, what is it? I am really suprised anything is there since this looks like a factory photo! |
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| 914werke |
Dec 2 2006, 11:46 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,029 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE The fact that your car has a/an LE - type spolier doesn't prove it is an LE. There are hundreds of 914's out there with them. Not really accurate Pat. There may be hundreds of of cars with reproductions of that ver. of spoiler but by Jeffs own registry there is only a few dozen with THE OE spoiler which if original to the car is a good indication of its linage. |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Dec 3 2006, 09:00 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,485 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Well actaully the way I understand it, is that all LEs of course came with the LE spoiler that was designed specifically for that car. Careful study of the photos on the Registry indicate that few LEs actually have their original spoiler, repros have been installed. But the spoiler and its brackets were also installed as an optional accessory on late 74-76 914s and were available for separate purchase from the dealers. So any 914 could have an OEM LE spoiler buy this time. You are both right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| type4org |
Dec 3 2006, 09:06 AM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Dec 3 2006, 10:00 AM) But the spoiler and its brackets were also installed as an optional accessory on late 74-76 914s and were available for separate purchase from the dealers. So any 914 could have an OEM LE spoiler buy this time. You are both right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You mean this kind of spoiler, which is on my '76?  |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Dec 3 2006, 05:26 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,485 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Pretty sure Jens. Looks like it has the brackets. What do the ends at the wheel wells look like? The OEM part is very distinctive.
QUOTE(type4org @ Dec 3 2006, 07:06 AM) QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Dec 3 2006, 10:00 AM) But the spoiler and its brackets were also installed as an optional accessory on late 74-76 914s and were available for separate purchase from the dealers. So any 914 could have an OEM LE spoiler buy this time. You are both right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You mean this kind of spoiler, which is on my '76? |
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| type4org |
Dec 3 2006, 05:33 PM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Dec 3 2006, 06:26 PM) Pretty sure Jens. Looks like it has the brackets. What do the ends at the wheel wells look like? The OEM part is very distinctive. I'll try to take some better pictures Tuesday, the next time I'm working on it. This one does seem to have all the goodies, including front and rear sway bars. |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Dec 3 2006, 11:43 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,485 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Here are some details. PN center middle inside surface.
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| warrenporsche |
Dec 4 2006, 05:43 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Winston, GA Member No.: 5,456 |
Does anyone know why the red car ( the bone stock one in the pics above) has an emblem on the hood? I am getting the impression it's being ignored because no one knows!!
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| jd74914 |
Dec 4 2006, 08:43 AM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
I imagine its because this was an actual "Porsche" prototype (atleast this is what I gather from Andy's post from DGVP).
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| warrenporsche |
Dec 4 2006, 10:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Winston, GA Member No.: 5,456 |
ahh, very true. after seeing that car, I don't think I want to go with the LE look anyway. That one is pretty much the look I want, besides I have learned through this thread that my LE spoiler is apparently a FAKE!! Oh well.
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| type4org |
Dec 5 2006, 11:11 AM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Dec 3 2006, 06:26 PM) Pretty sure Jens. Looks like it has the brackets. What do the ends at the wheel wells look like? The OEM part is very distinctive. I think we have a winner, this is indeed the "real" spoiler on mine:   |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Dec 6 2006, 11:52 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,485 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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I have this image of a WS for a 1975 914 that indicates a 'front spoiler' was installed as a factory accessory. Obviously this car would not be an LE and there were no other factory front spoilers available for the 914. If the LE spoiler was mounted to any 914 at the factory it should be indicated on the COA as optional equipment.
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| type4org |
Dec 6 2006, 12:09 PM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Dec 6 2006, 12:52 PM) I have this image of a WS for a 1975 914 that indicates a 'front spoiler' was installed as a factory accessory. Obviously this car would not be an LE and there were no other factory front spoilers available for the 914. If the LE spoiler was mounted to any 914 at the factory it should be indicated on the COA as optional equipment. My COA should arrive some time next week. However, seeing how badly they researched the technical data sheet I requested for the technical inspection and car registration I'm not holding my breath about its accuracy. |
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| Michael N |
Dec 24 2006, 02:17 PM
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Certifiable Group: Members Posts: 1,426 Joined: 6-June 04 From: San Jose, Ca Member No.: 2,164 Region Association: Northern California |
This is a decal off a NOS part which was installed last year. Made in Western Germany. I guess it is no longer a NOS part (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) .
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