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> Richie Ginther's 914 race cars, where are they?, Anyone know?
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post Dec 6 2006, 08:42 PM
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Another site I belong to had a thread about Richie Ginther and someone asked what happend to his 914's. His shop was in Culver City Ca. I think I've seen photos of a -6 that has been restored and the owner drives it in vintage touring events.

Anyone know anything?

Here his is with EFR at the wheel....





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post Aug 22 2017, 03:55 PM
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As best I can tell from various sources...Richie Ginther, as an employee of VW-Pacific, was commissioned by VW (Jo Hoppen) to built six 914-6 cars for 1970, for dealers to go for the 1970 ARRC (Road Atlanta) C Production National Championships. Two of those were campaigned by VW-Pacific for Alan Johnson and Elliot Forbes Robinson. They only got 4th and 5th at the ARRC behind the Datsuns. VW lost interest in the program and the cars were raced in 1971 but not seriously.

For 1972, VW/Hoppen commission Ginther, now in his own shop, to build a 914-4 to win the 1972 E Production ARRC national championship and got EFR to drive it. That's the #29 car. At the same time Hoppen wanted Ginther to create instructions for other to build one. The #30 914-4 car of Dwight Mitchell is either a result of that recipe or it may have been another VW-Pacific build. EFR almost lapped the whole field in the rain at the 1972 ARRC but was DQ'd due to non-compliant wheel track.

So, there were six 914-6s from 1970, and at least two 914-4s from 1972.

I've yet to find SCCA Prod regs from the 1970s (oldest copy I have is 1995) so I don't know what mods were allowed in Production back then. Which is why I'm really curious why EFR's #30 was sporting 5-bolt wheels.
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Aug 22 2017, 04:55 PM) *

EFR almost lapped the whole field in the rain at the 1972 ARRC but was DQ'd due to non-compliant wheel track.

So, there were six 914-6s from 1970, and at least two 914-4s from 1972.

I've yet to find SCCA Prod regs from the 1970s (oldest copy I have is 1995) so I don't know what mods were allowed in Production back then. Which is why I'm really curious why EFR's #30 was sporting 5-bolt wheels.



What if one of the -6 cars were converted to a -4? This would explain the wheels.

Do we know if the raced in 72 car was running 14 or 15 wheels? 14 wheels did come on early 911 and perhaps using 14 helped the project.

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URY914   Richie Ginther's 914 race cars, where are they?   Dec 6 2006, 08:42 PM
davep   I have been, quietly, wondering the same thing. I...   Dec 6 2006, 09:39 PM
Travis Neff   Bought up by Brumos? I only say that as they have...   Dec 6 2006, 10:18 PM
sixnotfour   Unsung 914 Hero Here is one of his cars, http://ww...   Dec 6 2006, 10:24 PM
john rogers   I think this is one of his?   Dec 6 2006, 10:36 PM
sixnotfour   Here is some recolection of the man,interesting re...   Dec 6 2006, 10:40 PM
sixnotfour   From the book   Dec 6 2006, 10:46 PM
ein 6er   paul, i found this googling around ..... Bob Hin...   Dec 8 2006, 04:34 PM
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ein 6er   also found this at air cooled racing (scroll down ...   Dec 8 2006, 06:32 PM
Brad Roberts   Alan Johnson's office is 5-6 blocks from me. ...   Dec 8 2006, 06:35 PM
90quattrocoupe   Alan Johnson's office is 5-6 blocks from me. ...   Aug 31 2017, 12:38 PM
john rogers   Alan usually gives part of the chalk board talk in...   Dec 8 2006, 07:39 PM
SLITS   Bill Cuddy owned one of the Ginther built cars and...   Dec 8 2006, 07:43 PM
kart54   I just found one more of the Ginther cars. It was ...   Jan 31 2007, 07:10 PM
URY914   Randy, that pretty cool! Thanks for the upda...   Jan 31 2007, 07:42 PM
GregAmy   Dare I necro-bump this thread...? A recent articl...   Aug 22 2017, 03:30 PM
GeorgeRud   Didn't Ginther run 914-4s? I seem to remember...   Aug 22 2017, 03:38 PM
dlkawashima   The Frank family owns the #29 car. http://www.914...   Aug 22 2017, 03:48 PM
GregAmy   The Frank family owns the #29 car. Oh, that's...   Aug 22 2017, 04:05 PM
GregAmy   As best I can tell from various sources...Richie G...   Aug 22 2017, 03:55 PM
DM_2000   EFR almost lapped the whole field in the rain at...   Aug 25 2017, 04:42 PM
mgphoto   Porsche Panorama July 1973 is part II of the prep ...   Aug 22 2017, 05:10 PM
GregAmy   Porsche Panorama July 1973 is part II of the prep...   Aug 22 2017, 08:28 PM
ConeDodger   Porsche Panorama July 1973 is part II of the pre...   Aug 22 2017, 10:24 PM
mgphoto   Porsche Panorama July 1973 is part II of the pre...   Aug 25 2017, 10:54 AM
Dave_Darling   One of the old Pano articles talks about the Garre...   Aug 22 2017, 09:50 PM
carr914   Bought up by Brumos? I only say that as they hav...   Aug 23 2017, 04:51 AM
gms   In 1970 there were six 914/6s prepared as Ginther ...   Aug 23 2017, 05:48 AM
Mr. Olympic Blue 2 You   The Frank racing guys were SO nice to talk to at R...   Aug 23 2017, 10:45 AM
GregAmy   A 914/4 from the 1972 effort that driven by Dwig...   Aug 23 2017, 11:09 AM
gms   [quote name='gms' post='2519936' date='Aug 23 201...   Aug 24 2017, 02:01 PM
rhodyguy   At the Frank site, does the spec tab for the 4 not...   Aug 23 2017, 02:02 PM
GregAmy   Specs option does not have a hyperlink. I'd li...   Aug 23 2017, 02:35 PM
maf914   Another site I belong to had a thread about Richi...   Aug 23 2017, 04:08 PM
GregAmy   The current Jul/Aug 2017 edition of Vintage Motors...   Aug 24 2017, 06:09 AM
SKL1   Still have a set of Solex 40-P11/4 carbs I got fro...   Aug 23 2017, 06:32 PM
GregAmy   :trophy:   Aug 25 2017, 10:58 AM
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krazykonrad   Not to get too far off topic, but is there that mu...   Aug 25 2017, 01:03 PM
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stownsen914   Not to get too far off topic, but is there that ...   Aug 30 2017, 06:38 PM
9146GUY   Ok so you guys are asking about the old Ginther ca...   Aug 25 2017, 03:06 PM
DM_2000   Ok so you guys are asking about the old Ginther c...   Aug 30 2017, 05:04 PM
GregAmy   Found a copy of the 1972 SCCA Prod regs...no allow...   Aug 30 2017, 07:10 AM
chfrank   Found a copy of the 1972 SCCA Prod regs...no allo...   Nov 24 2017, 11:21 PM
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JKW   I believe that car is owned by Edith Arrowsmith in...   Aug 30 2017, 05:34 PM
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SKL1   Didn't Ginther run 914-4s? I seem to remembe...   Nov 1 2020, 12:02 AM
gms   Great to see the car is coming back to the states,...   Oct 31 2023, 08:48 AM


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