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> Richie Ginther's 914 race cars, where are they?, Anyone know?
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post Dec 6 2006, 08:42 PM
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Another site I belong to had a thread about Richie Ginther and someone asked what happend to his 914's. His shop was in Culver City Ca. I think I've seen photos of a -6 that has been restored and the owner drives it in vintage touring events.

Anyone know anything?

Here his is with EFR at the wheel....





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post Aug 25 2017, 03:06 PM
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Ok so you guys are asking about the old Ginther cars. Since I had one I knew a fair amount about the cars back in the day. Remember back then nobody cared about history, record keeping or for that matter documenting anything with something as simple as pictures.
In 1970 a batch of 6-cylinder cars that were prepped and raced in some of the SCCA divisions. As was noted earlier Alan Johnson and EFR were the west coast contingent. Peter Gregg and Pete Harrison ran the Southwest while Bob Hindson and Kendall Noah ran the Midwest. I don’t know where Chuck Deitrich got his car but he ran in the Central division. It later ended up in Freddie Bakers hands for his early SCCA days.
While I don’t know where all the cars ended up but I can speak for a couple of them. The CENDIV car, which was driven by Deitrich and was sponsored by MIDVO, the Porsche/VW distributor back then, was sold to Freddie Baker of Bedford Ohio and he and I both got our SCCA licenses by beating up on each other. It’s the car that ended up in Alan Kendall’s possession. I had purchased the Hindson car as my first “real racecar”. I raced it for a couple of years until I decided to move up to something a bit faster when I looked at and passed on Merv Rosen’s 906 and instead bought a Cosworth powered Royale sports racer. But that’s another story.
Glenn Stazak spoke up and said that he knows where 3 cars are and that 1 was destroyed at Blackhawk. The car that was destroyed could very well have been the original Hindson car because I heard that after I sold it, it was wrapped around a tree somewhere. It could have been on a track or it could have been on the street because I also heard it was put back on the street. That would have been a huge chore because there just wasn’t much to the cars. They weighed under well 2000 lbs. and had no frills on them. It did have the early all 7” all back spaced wheels on it and I remember having to put spacer blocks under the roll bar so I would be legal.
You might ask how I know that the car I had was Hindson’s car. Easy, I drove to Kansas to pick it up, paid about 2500.00 which was a lot back then and under the “PORSCHE” decals on the rear quarters HINDSON was hand lettered. Dead giveaway.
Ginther also was involved in the development of the 4 cylinder cars for SCCA in E Production. That’s when they figured out about the roll bar/cage and frame stiffening.

This picture is from a weekend at Nelson’s Ledges in 1971 or 72.
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This picture is from an autocross about the same era.
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Ok so you guys are asking about the old Ginther cars. Since I had one I knew a fair amount about the cars back in the day.


In the Nelsons pic, did the 9 car run 14" front and 15" rear wheels? What about the width?


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URY914   Richie Ginther's 914 race cars, where are they?   Dec 6 2006, 08:42 PM
davep   I have been, quietly, wondering the same thing. I...   Dec 6 2006, 09:39 PM
Travis Neff   Bought up by Brumos? I only say that as they have...   Dec 6 2006, 10:18 PM
sixnotfour   Unsung 914 Hero Here is one of his cars, http://ww...   Dec 6 2006, 10:24 PM
john rogers   I think this is one of his?   Dec 6 2006, 10:36 PM
sixnotfour   Here is some recolection of the man,interesting re...   Dec 6 2006, 10:40 PM
sixnotfour   From the book   Dec 6 2006, 10:46 PM
ein 6er   paul, i found this googling around ..... Bob Hin...   Dec 8 2006, 04:34 PM
Carousel Racing   paul, i found this googling around ..... Bob Hi...   Oct 30 2023, 07:19 PM
ein 6er   also found this at air cooled racing (scroll down ...   Dec 8 2006, 06:32 PM
Brad Roberts   Alan Johnson's office is 5-6 blocks from me. ...   Dec 8 2006, 06:35 PM
90quattrocoupe   Alan Johnson's office is 5-6 blocks from me. ...   Aug 31 2017, 12:38 PM
john rogers   Alan usually gives part of the chalk board talk in...   Dec 8 2006, 07:39 PM
SLITS   Bill Cuddy owned one of the Ginther built cars and...   Dec 8 2006, 07:43 PM
kart54   I just found one more of the Ginther cars. It was ...   Jan 31 2007, 07:10 PM
URY914   Randy, that pretty cool! Thanks for the upda...   Jan 31 2007, 07:42 PM
GregAmy   Dare I necro-bump this thread...? A recent articl...   Aug 22 2017, 03:30 PM
GeorgeRud   Didn't Ginther run 914-4s? I seem to remember...   Aug 22 2017, 03:38 PM
dlkawashima   The Frank family owns the #29 car. http://www.914...   Aug 22 2017, 03:48 PM
GregAmy   The Frank family owns the #29 car. Oh, that's...   Aug 22 2017, 04:05 PM
GregAmy   As best I can tell from various sources...Richie G...   Aug 22 2017, 03:55 PM
DM_2000   EFR almost lapped the whole field in the rain at...   Aug 25 2017, 04:42 PM
mgphoto   Porsche Panorama July 1973 is part II of the prep ...   Aug 22 2017, 05:10 PM
GregAmy   Porsche Panorama July 1973 is part II of the prep...   Aug 22 2017, 08:28 PM
ConeDodger   Porsche Panorama July 1973 is part II of the pre...   Aug 22 2017, 10:24 PM
mgphoto   Porsche Panorama July 1973 is part II of the pre...   Aug 25 2017, 10:54 AM
Dave_Darling   One of the old Pano articles talks about the Garre...   Aug 22 2017, 09:50 PM
carr914   Bought up by Brumos? I only say that as they hav...   Aug 23 2017, 04:51 AM
gms   In 1970 there were six 914/6s prepared as Ginther ...   Aug 23 2017, 05:48 AM
Mr. Olympic Blue 2 You   The Frank racing guys were SO nice to talk to at R...   Aug 23 2017, 10:45 AM
GregAmy   A 914/4 from the 1972 effort that driven by Dwig...   Aug 23 2017, 11:09 AM
gms   [quote name='gms' post='2519936' date='Aug 23 201...   Aug 24 2017, 02:01 PM
rhodyguy   At the Frank site, does the spec tab for the 4 not...   Aug 23 2017, 02:02 PM
GregAmy   Specs option does not have a hyperlink. I'd li...   Aug 23 2017, 02:35 PM
maf914   Another site I belong to had a thread about Richi...   Aug 23 2017, 04:08 PM
GregAmy   The current Jul/Aug 2017 edition of Vintage Motors...   Aug 24 2017, 06:09 AM
SKL1   Still have a set of Solex 40-P11/4 carbs I got fro...   Aug 23 2017, 06:32 PM
GregAmy   :trophy:   Aug 25 2017, 10:58 AM
rhodyguy   The spring loaded carb studs are an interesting to...   Aug 25 2017, 12:39 PM
krazykonrad   Not to get too far off topic, but is there that mu...   Aug 25 2017, 01:03 PM
GregAmy   Not to get too far off topic, but is there that m...   Aug 25 2017, 01:18 PM
gms   Not to get too far off topic, but is there that m...   Aug 25 2017, 01:22 PM
stownsen914   Not to get too far off topic, but is there that ...   Aug 30 2017, 06:38 PM
9146GUY   Ok so you guys are asking about the old Ginther ca...   Aug 25 2017, 03:06 PM
DM_2000   Ok so you guys are asking about the old Ginther c...   Aug 30 2017, 05:04 PM
GregAmy   Found a copy of the 1972 SCCA Prod regs...no allow...   Aug 30 2017, 07:10 AM
chfrank   Found a copy of the 1972 SCCA Prod regs...no allo...   Nov 24 2017, 11:21 PM
rstover   I bought a new porsche in Oct. of 1983 and I a...   Aug 30 2017, 05:19 PM
JKW   I believe that car is owned by Edith Arrowsmith in...   Aug 30 2017, 05:34 PM
9146GUY   Answering a couple of questions: The cars had the ...   Aug 31 2017, 08:35 AM
Maltese Falcon   From my library ; Richie Ginther's L.A. shop p...   Nov 25 2017, 01:13 AM
Maltese Falcon   ...another Ginther's shop   Nov 25 2017, 01:16 AM
Maltese Falcon   ...Ginther's shop   Nov 25 2017, 01:18 AM
Maltese Falcon   ...Last one   Nov 25 2017, 01:20 AM
rgalla9146   Great thread ! More please   Nov 25 2017, 08:36 AM
rsdiaz   Hi my name is Bob from Santa Barbara Ca I worked ...   Nov 19 2018, 02:25 PM
7TPorsh   The 1970 Celebrity race cars were Ginther prepped ...   Nov 19 2018, 04:49 PM
914_teener   The 1970 Celebrity race cars were Ginther prepped...   Nov 19 2018, 05:36 PM
seanery   great thread! :trophy:   Nov 19 2018, 08:08 PM
blabla914   Who is talking you out of this? Though I have to ...   Nov 19 2018, 08:16 PM
GregAmy   Who is talking you out of this? Was that for me? ...   Nov 20 2018, 07:14 AM
blabla914   It's Foley, he says my chassis is too nice to ...   Nov 21 2018, 07:24 PM
blabla914   sorry I messed up on the scanner. didn't reali...   Nov 21 2018, 07:30 PM
blabla914   part II   Nov 21 2018, 07:32 PM
blabla914   Some people may recognize the stripes in the car w...   Nov 21 2018, 07:34 PM
Curbandgutter   Some people may recognize the stripes in the car ...   Nov 26 2018, 07:51 PM
Rufus   Anyone know how the 6 Ginther cars compared to GT...   Oct 31 2020, 09:58 PM
SKL1   Didn't Ginther run 914-4s? I seem to remembe...   Nov 1 2020, 12:02 AM
gms   Great to see the car is coming back to the states,...   Oct 31 2023, 08:48 AM


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