 Going to dual dells - what else do I need to set them up properly? |
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| Twystd1 |
 Dec 10 2006, 10:23 PM
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You don't want to know... really.....  Group: Members Posts: 2,515 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 2,743  |
Aaron and i were just talking about you on da`phone...
If ya need some help.. we are idiots and don't know much... But we will help if we can schedule it right. PM me or Aaron....... C |
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| db9146 |
Dec 10 2006, 10:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 21-December 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 3,315 Region Association: None 
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You're also going to need to move somewhere with some very patient neighbors or do like I used to do and drive over to a friend's house to sync the carbs every so often. I'd drive over, have dinner and then we'd get around to looking at the car. Well, 3000-3500 RPMs at 10:30PM at night is not the best way to win friends.
That's why I always drove over to my friend's house. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
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| Flycut |
Dec 10 2006, 10:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 6-August 06 From: Hawaii Member No.: 6,587 |
QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Dec 10 2006, 07:34 PM)  QUOTE(Flycut @ Dec 10 2006, 07:29 PM) I bought the cb performance Linkage and found that the arms that go from the hex bar linkage to thr carbs are to long and hit the top of the engine lid, The empi manifolds and linkage fit perfectly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) no way - were the arms pointing toward the front of teh car???? and which pivot position were you using? i find that way hard to believe, and am 99 percent sure you installed them wrong I run my linkage on the backside away from the firewall closer to the rear. I like the way the throttle cable works in this position. If you have the CB Manifolds they are really tall and create problems with clearance when you set your carbs up the way I have mine. The short manifolds from empi work perfectly with plenty of clearance, And the empi throttle arms are shorter than the cb performance ones. Any of you ever check out pierce manifolds? I buy alot of my weber stuff from them, And they have some great exploded diagrams of all the different weber carbs. |
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| Twystd1 |
Dec 10 2006, 10:53 PM
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You don't want to know... really..... Group: Members Posts: 2,515 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 2,743 |
By the way... How stock is this engine?
If it's built. We need to know all the specs BEFORE we come up...... Thats supposes you need me and Aaron... Cause Aaron and I have screwed up more Weber / Dell combos that you can imagine..... That makes the perfect choice..... I think... Errr, wellll...... whatever.... If ya need us... we will help U... And it might even work after we are done with it... If you are very lucky......... And the short manifolds DO work well for throttle response. Even that Kinda depends on the combo..... (intake valve closer to throttle blades) C |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 10 2006, 11:35 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,542 Joined: 1-February 03 From: Corona, CA Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Flycut @ Dec 10 2006, 08:45 PM) QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Dec 10 2006, 07:34 PM) QUOTE(Flycut @ Dec 10 2006, 07:29 PM) I bought the cb performance Linkage and found that the arms that go from the hex bar linkage to thr carbs are to long and hit the top of the engine lid, The empi manifolds and linkage fit perfectly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) no way - were the arms pointing toward the front of teh car???? and which pivot position were you using? i find that way hard to believe, and am 99 percent sure you installed them wrong I run my linkage on the backside away from the firewall closer to the rear. I like the way the throttle cable works in this position. If you have the CB Manifolds they are really tall and create problems with clearance when you set your carbs up the way I have mine. The short manifolds from empi work perfectly with plenty of clearance, And the empi throttle arms are shorter than the cb performance ones. Any of you ever check out pierce manifolds? I buy alot of my weber stuff from them, And they have some great exploded diagrams of all the different weber carbs. ahh... thats why. the cb is DESIGNED to run the other way around... all you need to do is fab a simple throttle cable bracket. pics in myblog... and pics of triad setup at www.triadwestperformance.com tall manifolds gain you some torque..... ill even fab you a simple throttle cable bracket if you promise to use the nicer cb setup (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) pierce is kinda expensive. i use the alfaguy on ebay or cb performance for my weber needs. i got weber books for diagrams. |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 10 2006, 11:42 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,542 Joined: 1-February 03 From: Corona, CA Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Twystd1 @ Dec 10 2006, 08:53 PM) By the way... How stock is this engine? If it's built. We need to know all the specs BEFORE we come up...... Thats supposes you need me and Aaron... Cause Aaron and I have screwed up more Weber / Dell combos that you can imagine..... That makes the perfect choice..... I think... Errr, wellll...... whatever.... If ya need us... we will help U... And it might even work after we are done with it... If you are very lucky......... And the short manifolds DO work well for throttle response. Even that Kinda depends on the combo..... (intake valve closer to throttle blades) C got the weberbooks/syncrometer/and a few jets packed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) just say the word.... LOL clayton and i are conjoined twins... just only he is passing the kidney stone |
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| Twystd1 |
Dec 10 2006, 11:56 PM
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You don't want to know... really..... Group: Members Posts: 2,515 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 2,743 |
Sad....but true
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| Carlitos Way |
Dec 11 2006, 12:10 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
I don't mean to hijack, but can I be invited to that party? I want to play with Webers too!!!
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| terrymason |
Dec 11 2006, 01:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Virginia Beach Member No.: 5,174 |
Hijack? It's my thread, and I'm not even invited! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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| Carlitos Way |
Dec 11 2006, 02:41 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(terrymason @ Dec 11 2006, 11:05 AM) The way I read it, you are the GUEST OF HONOR!!!! |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 11 2006, 04:15 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,542 Joined: 1-February 03 From: Corona, CA Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
and we are all going to virginia!
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| Twystd1 |
Dec 11 2006, 06:09 PM
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You don't want to know... really..... Group: Members Posts: 2,515 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 2,743 |
How the hell did Vigina get in this thread... AA... we gotta talk....
C |
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| anderssj |
Dec 12 2006, 05:35 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Terry-
I've been running Dells on my car for around 20 years--and I'm here in VA (near Williamsburg). I have some articles on how to set up the carbs--IIRC, they were pretty useful at the time. I could make copies and send them if you're interested. I think I also have some specs on what venturis, jets, and e-tubes came on which carbs--it may give you a good place to work from. I also added a picture of the throttle cable set-up on my car. I'm using the CB hex-bar linkage and manifolds that came with the kit. No clearance issues, even with the rain tray in place. Is Centreville VA near Dulles airport? I need to make a run up there on PM 20 DEC . . . but I won't be in the 914. PM me if you have any questions. Best, Steve A- Attached image(s) 
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| terrymason |
Dec 30 2006, 03:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Virginia Beach Member No.: 5,174 |
I seem to have hit a couple of snags while installing my new dells this weekend:
My linkage bar appears to be too long, and they don't make one short enought (the one I have is 19", and I need one 16": (IMG:http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6690/linkage2hr6.th.jpg) My second problem is that my carb rod linkage is alittle off. I believe that I have a heim joint on the cb linkage, but my carb doesn't appear compatible with that. Could someone shed some light on what I need to buy / know? It looks like I should be able to unscrew the bottom heim joint, and just screw on some sort of snap connector. (IMG:http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/994/carbconnectorhm2.th.jpg) |
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| terrymason |
Dec 30 2006, 03:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Virginia Beach Member No.: 5,174 |
OK, yet another tech question - my dellorto superperformance book tells me that I don't need a T, and that one carb feeds the other. I don't see how it works, and there are no illustrations in the book about how to hook the fuel lines up. Does anyone have a photo of the fuel line routing, and the exit port on the master carb?
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| jr91472 |
Dec 30 2006, 04:11 PM
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"I'm pacing myself sergeant..." Group: Members Posts: 1,205 Joined: 2-August 04 From: McKinney, TX Member No.: 2,437 |
QUOTE(terrymason @ Dec 30 2006, 01:48 PM) OK, yet another tech question - my dellorto superperformance book tells me that I don't need a T, and that one carb feeds the other. I don't see how it works, and there are no illustrations in the book about how to hook the fuel lines up. Does anyone have a photo of the fuel line routing, and the exit port on the master carb? On one carb, you should have an IN and an OUT hose fitting. The other should just have an IN. Thus you run the fuel to the carbs "in series". These simply bolt on and off so you can swap them to fit your fuel set up (i.e. the IN/OUT fitting should be first in line, then the IN only fitting). I suppose it is possible that you have (2) IN only fittings. If so, you can probably get a replacement from either aircoolednet or CB Performance. good luck |
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| Kargeek |
Dec 30 2006, 05:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 430 |
Here is a pic of my setup - I have been running dells for 18 years on this car -have have no problems with the CB linkage.
facing the arms toward the rear simplifies the cable hook up. My carb linkage brackets had two mounting holes on the carb plates for the cross linkage -one high up and one lower which I used. Doing this clears the rain tray. I trimmed off the portion of the post not used. The cross bar is longer than needed- you have to trim it. I made a simple cable bracket that mounts to right side carb- no problems with side loading of the linkage or sync of the carbs. DH Attached image(s) 
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| terrymason |
Dec 30 2006, 07:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Virginia Beach Member No.: 5,174 |
QUOTE(jr91472 @ Dec 30 2006, 02:11 PM) On one carb, you should have an IN and an OUT hose fitting. The other should just have an IN. Thus you run the fuel to the carbs "in series". makes sense, but I dont' see it on my carbs - do you happen to have a picture of yours? (IMG:http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9061/img0784zu2.th.jpg) |
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| terrymason |
Dec 30 2006, 07:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Virginia Beach Member No.: 5,174 |
QUOTE(Kargeek @ Dec 30 2006, 03:14 PM) Here is a pic of my setup - I have been running dells for 18 years on this car -have have no problems with the CB linkage. facing the arms toward the rear simplifies the cable hook up. The cross bar is longer than needed- you have to trim it. That's a really nice looking setup, I'm going to redo mine tomorrow and face the arms backwards also. How did you cut the crossbar? I'm thinking I'll have to get someong else to do it. I have a grinder, but I'm not sure how the finished product would be if I tried to use that. I'd also have to drill a new hole in the center of the cross bar for the spring and ball to go into. Do you guys have any input on the other issue I have - mating the linkage from my cb kit to my dells? I'm wondering if I can replace the plate mounted on my dells to make it work |
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| Kargeek |
Dec 31 2006, 02:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 430 |
Terry,
I believe the crossbar is rifle drilled- that is, there will be a hole remaining after you cut it to length. Or, check to see how deep the hole is drilled on each side and cut both ends to fit. The bar is made longer than needed to fit different applications. Cut it straight with a hack saw and file it to final size. Better to cut it long and keep trimming it to size. DH |
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