 OT: My old Elise on evil-bay |
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| Qarl |
 Dec 24 2006, 12:35 PM
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Shriveled member  Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None   |
My old Elise is on evil-bay and is about to sell...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lotus-Elise...1QQcmdZViewItem Too bad the suckers bidding on it don't know the history... sad, very sad.... |
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| KaptKaos |
Dec 24 2006, 12:54 PM
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Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
They are saying it has a clear title too? If you know that its yours via the VIN, you should report it to ebay.
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| ConeDodger |
Dec 24 2006, 01:20 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,580 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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QUOTE(KaptKaos @ Dec 24 2006, 10:54 AM)  They are saying it has a clear title too? If you know that its yours via the VIN, you should report it to ebay. True dat! EBay is big on that... |
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| drive-ability |
Dec 24 2006, 02:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
There was a guy selling a V8 car over EBAY and withheld accident damage. I steeped in and emailed the bidder, the auction was canceled and the car was re-listed with the details included in the ad. The car had been reviewed by an 914.co* member. He posted his findings in a thread. EBAY has changed the way they list bidders so you can't do that anymore. The bidder and I have been friends ever since. I know some people think its none of my business but I have been scammed and helped out as well.
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| PORobinSCHE |
Dec 24 2006, 02:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 22-July 06 From: Orlando,Fl Member No.: 6,484 |
is that the same Lotus that flew off the lift? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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| carreraguy |
Dec 24 2006, 03:30 PM
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It's not your dad's 914! Group: Members Posts: 1,197 Joined: 17-October 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 1,256 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(PORobinSCHE @ Dec 24 2006, 12:15 PM) Considering that this car was determined to be (as I recall) a total loss due to falling off a lift (the pics are hard to forget), it DEFINITELY should be reported to Ebay. Qarl - has the Ebay listing been mentioned on the Lotus Elise site? |
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| Qarl |
Dec 24 2006, 03:47 PM
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Shriveled member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(carreraguy @ Dec 24 2006, 04:30 PM) QUOTE(PORobinSCHE @ Dec 24 2006, 12:15 PM) Considering that this car was determined to be (as I recall) a total loss due to falling off a lift (the pics are hard to forget), it DEFINITELY should be reported to Ebay. Qarl - has the Ebay listing been mentioned on the Lotus Elise site? Oh yes... they're all over it. About a dozen reports to e-bay that I know of. |
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| Joe Bob |
Dec 24 2006, 03:49 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Does Carfax know about it?
I emailed the seller...wonder if he'll respond.... |
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| drive-ability |
Dec 24 2006, 04:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
There is something going on, the bid is only 900 below the buy it Now price? They must be bidding it up with a few guys behind the seen.
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| boxstr |
Dec 24 2006, 07:14 PM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Due Dilegence, If you are willing to spend $30k on a car you had better do your homework. The pics show the damage on the body, none of the underside. Get a PPI and have it looked at.
I have to agree it appears there are some helpers with the bidding. CCLINEBAYORMYWAY |
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| Mountain914 |
Dec 26 2006, 09:26 PM
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Too much time in thin air! Group: Members Posts: 367 Joined: 22-May 03 From: Conifer, CO Member No.: 725 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
If the insurance company totalled it (or good year or whomever) - doesn't it then go to "salvage" title ?
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| grantsfo |
Dec 26 2006, 09:44 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
$31K is far below sale prices I have seen for similar models for a car with that kind of mileage? What kind of structual damage was done to the car in sliding off the back of that lift? The guy selling says the car was involved in a shop accidient.
What am I missing? If the car is strucutally sound with some cosemetic defects this seems like a fair price? |
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| Qarl |
Dec 26 2006, 10:20 PM
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Shriveled member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(grantsfo @ Dec 26 2006, 10:44 PM) Isnt $31K far below sale prices I have seen for similar models for a car with that kind of mileage? What kind of structual damage was done to the car in sliding off the back of that lift? The guy selling says the car was involved in a shop accidient. What am I missing? If the car is strucutally sound with some cosemetic defects this seems like a fair price? Pics here... http://www.my914-6.com/crap Car fell 5-6 feet off of a lift at a tire store onto it's backside. Chassis is tweaked. There is a hole punctured in the bottom of the chassis (floor pan) Every fiberglass panel is punctured. I was wary of the engine and tranny as the force of impact against an unyielding concrete floor is much greater than a compressible forgivable automobile. I would question whether a tranny gear, piston ring, or some engine internal might have a nick in due to the force of impact. The car was hung by the front suspension as it was lowered from the car lift (a big no-no according to Lotus engineers) The entire rear shell of the car is misaligned. Lotus engineers said the chassis was irrepairable and determined it needed a replacement chassis. The car may VERY well be repairable and may actually run perfectly. Only time and an alignment shop will tell. |
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| Joe Bob |
Dec 27 2006, 07:37 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Gee....no answer to my questions to the seller....
Did eBay ever get back to ya? |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Dec 28 2006, 12:37 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Looks like it timed out. Guy got lucky, because he coulda been a world o'hurt if the sale went through. Makes you wonder if he has a "friend" at the insurance co .............. The Cap'n
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| drewvw |
Dec 28 2006, 02:28 PM
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new england car guy Group: Members Posts: 1,631 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 5,630 Region Association: North East States |
I love the pics from the "accident". This guy spends 3 sentences talking about the car itself and 5 paragraphs talking about its rich motoring history. What a tool. |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Dec 28 2006, 05:15 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Perhaps the FL AG would be interested in the whole story. If the car was totalled, how did it get out on the market (in the hands of what appears to be a private party) with a "clear title"? Does the insurance company have anything to do with this? Smells like fraud at the very least ........... The Cap'n
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| Qarl |
Dec 28 2006, 06:11 PM
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Shriveled member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None |
The car has been sold, but far under the asking price (according to the buyer). Apparently the barage of nasty e-mails and the fact that nearly the entire auto enthusiast world new about the car was to the buyer's advantage.
The previous damage was disclosed to the buyer and he had the vehicle inspected by the Lotus dealer in Clearwater, FL. Apparently it checked out mechanically fine, but time will tell. The buyer is willing to do the repairs to the body. The insurance company decided to total the car with me, because the cost of repairs was to great and because of the predicament they put me in (and the fact that I wasn't willing to accept a repaired car). I don't believe the car was deemed a salvage by the State of Florida. So, buyer and seller are happy and this chapter in my wonderful life is officially closed. |
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