 What say we clean up the membership count? |
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| JeffBowlsby |
 Dec 24 2006, 09:58 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses  Group: Members Posts: 8,499 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None 
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Andy mentioned that there were about 500 active members on the old forum, its probably similar to that here. SIX THOUSAND...huh...I don't think so?
A new member is not created everytime someone selects a new long in name. If some one signs in and never posts are they really a member? This site is about truth, justice and the 914 Way correct? Call it like it is...Otherwise its just all lies.... Can the membership roles were purged say once a month by the admins, to clear out any 'members' who have not signed in or posted in say the last 12 months? |
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| scotty b |
Dec 24 2006, 10:02 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
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Let the bitching begin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| VaccaRabite |
Dec 24 2006, 10:11 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Why on earth would we do that?
I signed up in 2003, but did not log in again for 2 years. Would just come over and lurk in guest mode. When I bought my car I got active. Having the members does not hurt us, it takes relativly little space to store users accounts. Deleting old accounts could be really bad PR if folks start comming back. Like I did. Merry christmas! Zach |
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| smj |
Dec 24 2006, 10:32 PM
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"Dude, Steve from Berkeley." Group: Members Posts: 591 Joined: 28-August 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 4,691 Region Association: Northern California
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What if The Admins instead added a simple count to the main page to show how many members had logged in in the past 30 days? Let's you get a feel for how big the "active" community is without calling for a lot of work (hopefully). Maybe it gets updated once a week -- let them what can see how easy it is/isn't worry about that.
Just checked -- the closest thing that's already present is the Stats section on the bottom of the Forums page. It shows how many users were active in the past 30 minutes, but nothing longer than that. |
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| scotty b |
Dec 24 2006, 10:38 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Perhaps a members title for those who post regularly. A lurker title for those who don't post regularly and maybe for a small monatary fee you could obtain a "special interest" title (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
Yeah I did it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| boxstr |
Dec 24 2006, 11:29 PM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
We can have a subscribers tile, for those who subscribe.
Ya thats it. CCLINDOH |
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| neo914-6 |
Dec 24 2006, 11:43 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
If you go to "Member List" you can see who the "active" members are in terms of posts. If you scroll through the 600+ pages you can differentiate the top posters and the non-posters. Aaron is has taken the lead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
It's good to review metrics. It can help club decisions and at least control the exagerations. If you know how many 914's are on the road vs how many have signed up, I'll bet there is a very large number of 914 owners that are not on this club or any other. I know many who aren't internet or club oriented. |
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| elwood-914 |
Dec 25 2006, 01:55 AM
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elwood-914 Group: Members Posts: 387 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Plymouth CA Member No.: 38 |
That does it I'm outta here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
That doesnt work well for me. I do a lot of lurking and am not doing anything to my car at the moment so I just lurk........not a big poster. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/coffee.gif) Merry Christmas everyone. |
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| Eric Taylor |
Dec 25 2006, 01:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 1-June 03 From: Newport, OR/Eugene Oregon- UO Member No.: 770 |
I;m in the same boat as elwood. I don't have the money or the time to work on my car right now so I don't post a lot, but I probably check in 3-4 times a day and lurk like a stalker outside the window. I enjoy my place and my log in (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| Joe Bob |
Dec 25 2006, 02:03 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Another way....simply validate the email addresses. I believe there were bounced messages when we sent out the club invite. There hasn't been to my knowledge any discussion on cleaning it up...but I've missed a few memos of late....
We saw quite a few old members who came back and checked in and posted...if they had their accounts purged they would have a bit irked.... A few old members did not come back....it's not a real priority for me to get an accurate count. We have a different purpose now. Right now I'm playing Santa and validating my kids email accounts, setting up the wireless booster and doing updates....I feel like a real IT geek....please kill me now.... |
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| neo914-6 |
Dec 25 2006, 02:30 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
QUOTE(elwood-914 @ Dec 24 2006, 11:55 PM)  That does it I'm outta here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) That doesnt work well for me. I do a lot of lurking and am not doing anything to my car at the moment so I just lurk........not a big poster. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/coffee.gif) Merry Christmas everyone. I agree, we don't need to actively remove anyone who registered. "Lurkers" or viewers are probably a majority of the club and it's great for those considering buying a 914. |
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| Rusty |
Dec 25 2006, 09:12 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch 
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Dec 24 2006, 09:58 PM) Andy mentioned that there were about 500 active members on the old forum, its probably similar to that here. SIX THOUSAND...huh...I don't think so? A new member is not created everytime someone selects a new long in name. If some one signs in and never posts are they really a member? This site is about truth, justice and the 914 Way correct? Call it like it is...Otherwise its just all lies.... Can the membership roles were purged say once a month by the admins, to clear out any 'members' who have not signed in or posted in say the last 12 months? Merry Christmas, Jeff! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) 500 core members, several thousand lurkers or very infrequent posters. But you're right. A cleanup is probably in order. It's not something we've actively pursued in the past, because it wasn't hurting anything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Every user is assigned a number and those numbers are linked to posts, avatars and stuff. Even if we purge invalid/inactive users, we probably won't "compress" the list of user numbers. It's a project for the ever-growing list, but something that should be tended to. When it happens, it will be well-planned, slow and deliberate. We don't want to shut anyone out that might decide to come back after a hiatus! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Warm regards, Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| Toast |
Dec 25 2006, 11:25 AM
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Not bad for carrying sway bars. Group: Members Posts: 3,377 Joined: 20-January 04 From: Las Vegas Member No.: 1,580 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Leave it like it is.
There have been enough changes lately. |
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| Toast |
Dec 25 2006, 11:27 AM
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Not bad for carrying sway bars. Group: Members Posts: 3,377 Joined: 20-January 04 From: Las Vegas Member No.: 1,580 Region Association: Southwest Region |
There was a member recently named 914
He was one of the first registered members. He loged in a couple months ago and wanted to know why he still had Newbie status. Anyone remember that? I would be a little irked if I had that member name and then it disappeared because I had not logged in in a few years. Knowwhatimsayin? |
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| Lou W |
Dec 25 2006, 11:47 AM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
QUOTE(Toast @ Dec 25 2006, 11:27 AM) There was a member recently named 914 He was one of the first registered members. He loged in a couple months ago and wanted to know why he still had Newbie status. Anyone remember that? I would be a little irked if I had that member name and then it disappeared because I had not logged in in a few years. Knowwhatimsayin? I agree, leave it the way it is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Today the world, tomorrow the universe. |
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| computers4kids |
Dec 25 2006, 12:22 PM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(mikez @ Dec 25 2006, 12:03 AM) We saw quite a few old members who came back and checked in and posted...if they had their accounts purged they would have a bit irked.... A few old members did not come back....it's not a real priority for me to get an accurate count. We have a different purpose now. A Few Thoughts... As Mike mentioned above, quite a few members came back and posted because of the email and a lot of emails were even bounced back. We definitely don't want to base membership on email addresses...I'm sure many owners never update their profile but are still out there or even lurking…wondering. With all that has happened lately, anyone who hasn't been active in the last 2 months would/are confused as hell...and probably will end-up going to the old 914club ip not knowing—even with the “914World” email invitation. Since, in all likelihood, Brad will populate his site with the old content as well, infrequent members will think they just drove into a CA Ghost town...the buildings are all there, but where are all the people?...and probably leave disenchanted. Even though the content is invaluable, it’s the people who make the club. I guess what I’m trying to say is we need, to create a feeling of “inclusion” not “exclusory” as a club, and reach out to 914 owners somehow and let them know they are welcome. It would be nice to actually know how many members are active and who they are, but I think we better wait a while from making any changes. One piece of info that would be real nice to know, is the number of 914s still out there that their owners still consider to be viable. Perhaps we could setup some sort of nailed thread that starts to collect an active set of VIN numbers—I’m sure the 6000 member database of VINS is way off. Lastly, let’s not remove anyone based on the number of posts, last login or even 914 ownership. In my opinion, the club should be about it’s people, good conversation, and the love of cars, regardless whether it’s members have a rolling tub or not, or a tricked-out conversion. |
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| bernbomb914 |
Dec 25 2006, 04:31 PM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
A Few Thoughts...
As Mike mentioned above, quite a few members came back and posted because of the email and a lot of emails were even bounced back. We definitely don't want to base membership on email addresses...I'm sure many owners never update their profile but are still out there or even lurking…wondering. With all that has happened lately, anyone who hasn't been active in the last 2 months would/are confused as hell...and probably will end-up going to the old 914club ip not knowing—even with the “914World” email invitation. Since, in all likelihood, Brad will populate his site with the old content as well, infrequent members will think they just drove into a CA Ghost town...the buildings are all there, but where are all the people?...and probably leave disenchanted. Even though the content is invaluable, it’s the people who make the club. I guess what I’m trying to say is we need, to create a feeling of “inclusion” not “exclusory” as a club, and reach out to 914 owners somehow and let them know they are welcome. It would be nice to actually know how many members are active and who they are, but I think we better wait a while from making any changes. One piece of info that would be real nice to know, is the number of 914s still out there that their owners still consider to be viable. Perhaps we could setup some sort of nailed thread that starts to collect an active set of VIN numbers—I’m sure the 6000 member database of VINS is way off. Lastly, let’s not remove anyone based on the number of posts, last login or even 914 ownership. In my opinion, the club should be about it’s people, good conversation, and the love of cars, regardless whether it’s members have a rolling tub or not, or a tricked-out conversion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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| grantsfo |
Dec 25 2006, 04:38 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Probably would be best to invalidate all accounts and let everyone start over again? That way you get rid of old unused screen names etc.
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| Gint |
Dec 25 2006, 04:52 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,071 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(grantsfo @ Dec 25 2006, 03:38 PM) Probably would be best to invalidate all accounts and let everyone start over again? That way you get rid of old unused screen names etc. That was a joke... right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| Rusty |
Dec 25 2006, 04:57 PM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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QUOTE(grantsfo @ Dec 25 2006, 04:38 PM) Probably would be best to invalidate all accounts and let everyone start over again? That way you get rid of old unused screen names etc. If we start over, I want to be Z... cause he's so coooooooooooooooooolll... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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