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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
 Jan 12 2007, 12:43 PM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 7,866 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None  |
No this is not a piece cut from a rust free California 914 but rather a construction of all of the great aftermarket rust repair panels available for our 914s.
Panels + Pieces consist of: Upper Longitudinal Battery Tray Battery Support Engine Shelf Inner Suspension Console Inner Wheelhouse Jack Plate Jack Tube Outer Firewall Inner Firewall Cross Member Floor Pan Quarter Door Sill Door Jamb Floor Pan Triangle (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/four.jpg) (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/one.jpg) (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/two.jpg) (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/six.jpg) (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/five.jpg) (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/three.jpg) |
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| scotty b |
Jan 12 2007, 11:05 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
If you cut your outer skin say 4" futher (2" per side of cut) then the inner, you could weld the new piece to your existing inner and make a new smooth outer skin, thus keeping 2 layers and an OE appearance.
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| McMark |
Jan 13 2007, 01:18 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Sorry John, I misunderstood your confusion... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
My philosophy is to replace as little material as possible. If your welds are solid and you use sufficiently thick material you shouldn't have a problem. If you can weld in the inner piece and then weld the outer piece, that would be best, but a thicker piece (16 guage or so) would work as well. It all depends on how big of a section you are replacing. |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 13 2007, 09:29 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,866 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(obscurity @ Jan 12 2007, 08:18 PM)  QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 12 2007, 05:34 PM) Originally, the outer skin is flat, and inner piece has ribs. It sounded like you were a little unclear on that point. I get that but I guess I am asking do you need to replace the whole piece or can you just replace a portion and attempt to weld the new thicker, ribbed material to both the outer skin and the remaining inner stiffener? It just seems that things would be getting pretty cut up within the long and I was concerned with strength. The reason I ask is I am wrestling with the decision of whether to buy the replacement piece or try to fabricate what I have to cut out due to rust I would always suggest to fabricate a piece if the longitudinal under the battery has only one rust hole on the top of it. This lets every thing stay in place and makes for an easy repair. (of course the engine has to be removed to do this) Then the engine shelf is easily installed and then the battery tray and support. |
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| rick 918-S |
Jan 13 2007, 09:41 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,462 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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Very nice, Thanks for posting those.
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 13 2007, 10:50 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,866 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(obscurity @ Jan 12 2007, 08:18 PM) QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 12 2007, 05:34 PM) Originally, the outer skin is flat, and inner piece has ribs. It sounded like you were a little unclear on that point. I get that but I guess I am asking do you need to replace the whole piece or can you just replace a portion and attempt to weld the new thicker, ribbed material to both the outer skin and the remaining inner stiffener? It just seems that things would be getting pretty cut up within the long and I was concerned with strength. The reason I ask is I am wrestling with the decision of whether to buy the replacement piece or try to fabricate what I have to cut out due to rust we would suggest that with today's welding equipment there is not a problem splicing except though to use common sense when cutting as not to interfere with the reinforcements inside the frame member (meaning cut more or less as not to interfere, but replace the affected area including the whole reinforcement. |
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| pete-stevers |
Jan 13 2007, 02:27 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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great pics...Dok-tor....
and it is gud to see you aboard... |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 13 2007, 03:18 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,866 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(pete-stevers @ Jan 13 2007, 12:27 PM) great pics...Dok-tor.... and it is gud to see you aboard... thank you! I have many pics that I will post when appropriate or when asked of course!!!! That piece sort of reminds me of buying a brick from the empire state building to say you own a piece of the building. "Be the first in your neighboorhood to own a piece of a 914!" |
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| snflupigus |
Feb 4 2007, 02:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 29-May 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,163 Region Association: None |
I will more than need a few of those parts... am I the only one who has problems with the AA site not showing pics of most of these parts though? pics are just little red x's, not found... could we put prices next to each of those listed on the first post?
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 4 2007, 02:18 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
George,
Any solutions for the passengers side yet? |
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| SirAndy |
Feb 4 2007, 02:26 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,644 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 4 2007, 12:18 PM) Any solutions for the passengers side yet? don't you mean drivers-side? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) unless you recently moved to england ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) Andy |
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 4 2007, 03:34 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Uhhhhhhhhh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
Yes... any solution for the drivers side yet? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Feb 4 2007, 04:02 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,719 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 4 2007, 01:34 PM) You betcha! One of these! Attached image(s) 
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 4 2007, 09:24 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Can you lop off the back 1/2 of that and send it to me? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Feb 5 2007, 11:14 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,866 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
The drivers side was not a problem for us here in the south but if we have to replace this area we cut and weld in a used piece or for the section on the longitudinal that is covered with the carpet, we can turn one of the right ones upside down and use it!
We too like Perry have a bunch of the new left longtiudinals in stock but there is just no call for them!!!!!! How much for yours Perry? |
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 5 2007, 11:19 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I have a weird NorCal car that has great longs etc. No rust EXCEPT the hell holes. They must have gotten plugged. I currently have a couple of Mark Blands kits. I think these will work but it sure would be nice to have a drivers and passengers shelf to throw in there.
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| tdsmoonchild |
Feb 6 2007, 09:17 AM
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Terry Group: Members Posts: 197 Joined: 18-January 06 From: Duncanville,TX Member No.: 5,431 |
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 5 2007, 11:19 AM) I have a weird NorCal car that has great longs etc. No rust EXCEPT the hell holes. They must have gotten plugged. I currently have a couple of Mark Blands kits. I think these will work but it sure would be nice to have a drivers and passengers shelf to throw in there. What is a Mark Blands kit? |
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| Bartlett 914 |
Feb 6 2007, 09:43 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE(tdsmoonchild @ Feb 6 2007, 07:17 AM) QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 5 2007, 11:19 AM) I have a weird NorCal car that has great longs etc. No rust EXCEPT the hell holes. They must have gotten plugged. I currently have a couple of Mark Blands kits. I think these will work but it sure would be nice to have a drivers and passengers shelf to throw in there. What is a Mark Blands kit? I know of 2 kits Engman (Mark Bland) sells. One is a reinforcment for the inside of the tub. 3 formed pieces I believe. Then there is the Hell Hole Kit for the CSOB. This is a flat sheet metal kit for repair to the top of the Hell Hole. There are some pieces to repair the lower inner whelhouse, upper firewall (behind the seat) and the engine shelf. Some forming is required on all these pieces. |
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 6 2007, 09:47 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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| tdsmoonchild |
Feb 15 2007, 10:28 AM
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Terry Group: Members Posts: 197 Joined: 18-January 06 From: Duncanville,TX Member No.: 5,431 |
QUOTE(John @ Jan 12 2007, 12:50 PM) Just how much is that collection of parts (ballpark as I can't afford it right now anyway)? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Feb 15 2007, 10:58 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,866 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(tdsmoonchild @ Feb 15 2007, 08:28 AM) QUOTE(John @ Jan 12 2007, 12:50 PM) Just how much is that collection of parts (ballpark as I can't afford it right now anyway)? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) About 650. There are also many more rust repair parts now made for the 914 and we really thank the manufacturers who have taken the time and invested the money in making the parts. It really speaks for the popularity of the car. |
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