 Installing a new (to me) engine., Steps and costs? |
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| KaptKaos |
 Jan 14 2007, 01:15 PM
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Family  Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest  |
I posted this on Narp during the "Great Divide." I am now getting ready to start this project so I figured I'd post here, with the additional suggestions from the folks on Narp.
I picked up a 1911 motor from Grimstead a few weeks ago. I will be replacing my stock 1.7 with the 1911. I also have a set of 44 idfs for that motor too. So while I am going to swap this motor, I figured I'd check to see what else I should do "while I am in there?" If anyone knows the ball park costs for some of these items, please list it too, as it will help me budget. I don't want Dirk Wright disease, but I want to take care of any maintenance items while I have the old motor out and am prepping for the new one. clutch fuel lines tranny mounts new fuel pump - CB Rotary $60 various jets, and venturis for tuning the carbs - based upon recommendations (32 chokes) cv gaskets red loctite (something I need to get for all of this) trans mainshaft seal and cup bushing in the TOB arm... new bolts for the flywheel if you have it off A type 1 oil pump that has already had the shaft milled is a great investment if you want to upgrade your oil system & seals. Check the CV joints and repack them. Rebuilt alternator (I have a new starter) Check that right rear suspension point where the trailing arm pivots. Thats below the battery tray and corrodes from the inside out. $?? do andy's jumper wire at the engine relay board to power the pump. Help me out fellas! Thanks, Joe |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 14 2007, 01:38 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
50 ish bucks for weltmeister "solid" trans mounts. they are a poly/hockeypuck material.
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| MrKona |
Jan 14 2007, 01:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 25-July 05 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 4,469 Region Association: None |
This might be going a little overboard, but I have mine out right now, and I'm planning on installing a new alternator while it's out. For all I know, it's the original, it's gonna fail sometime, and I'd rather change it now while the engine is out and it's easily accessible.
- Bryan |
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| SLITS |
Jan 14 2007, 01:55 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
QUOTE(MrKona @ Jan 14 2007, 11:48 AM)  This might be going a little overboard, but I have mine out right now, and I'm planning on installing a new alternator while it's out. For all I know, it's the original, it's gonna fail sometime, and I'd rather change it now while the engine is out and it's easily accessible. - Bryan You are correct ... that's overboard ... installing another will not guarantee longivity, especially if it is a "rebuilt" one. |
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| bperry |
Jan 14 2007, 04:24 PM
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Lurker Group: Members Posts: 477 Joined: 16-February 04 From: Dallas, Tx Member No.: 1,661 |
Quite a list of parts.
Do you have manifolds & linkage for the Carbs? Have you looked in the carbs to see what jets and venturi sizes you already have? Maybe you've looked already and know you need them but if not, I wouldn't necessarily replace all the seals/gaskets you have listed unless there were signs of leaking. As long as you are getting a fuel pump from CB performance ($54), I'd go ahead and get the jets, and chokes/venturi from them as well. They seem to have the best pricing when I've looked. 32mm chokes. ~$9/each Idle/Main jets ~$4/each. Also, from CB if you don't have it, get their "Weber Technical Manual". Best $10 you'll ever spend. You should be able to find prices pretty easily from the sources listed below. A few items I've priced recently Motor mounts are around $15-$20 each OEM transmission mounts are around $90 each. (there are some other non stock alternatives) Oil cooler seals ~$1-2 CV gaskets ~$2-3 copper exhaust nuts ~$1 each Alternator belt ~$10 Here are some places I've used that you can look for parts/prices: cperformance.com (Carb parts) Seem to have best prices on Weber parts and accessories. www.aircooled.net (Carb parts) These guys are a bit higher than CB but have returns on venturis. They also have some great technical papers on their site. pelicanparts.com (everything) www.autoatlanta.com (everything) allzim.com (everything) Call 800#, webpages aren't very good or complete www.gprparts.com/ (everything) Webpages are good but they have even more stuff if you call 800# ----------------------------- Defintely use the existing wiring for the power on the fuel pump rather than tapping off the coil. If you jumper pin III of the four pin connector on the relay board to gound, the original fump wires will be energized while the ignition is on. --- bill |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 14 2007, 04:51 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
cb is a good place to shop... but far from cheap on jetting....
alphaguy or alfaguy on ebay sells em direct from italy way cheap.... at a minimum you will need 32 vents (your may have had em on andys 2056...) probably 50 idles.... take a guess at mains and airs.... |
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| dlo914 |
Jan 14 2007, 06:39 PM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
Joe if ya need any help removing and reinstalling, call me up ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| rhodyguy |
Jan 14 2007, 06:49 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,082 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
while it's out...ball stud cup and clip for the throwout arm, the throwout bearing clips (2). change gear lube.
k |
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| sww914 |
Jan 14 2007, 09:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(MrKona @ Jan 14 2007, 11:48 AM) This might be going a little overboard, but I have mine out right now, and I'm planning on installing a new alternator while it's out. For all I know, it's the original, it's gonna fail sometime, and I'd rather change it now while the engine is out and it's easily accessible. - Bryan I've had a spare alternator sitting here for years. Mine has been through a solvent tank, a fire, a big red dishwasher type engine cleaner, a hose washing the fire extinguisher crap out of it, lots of rain (no engine lid), spiders setting up shop in it, and it's growled since I got the car, but it still hasn't quit working. |
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| KaptKaos |
Jan 24 2007, 06:49 PM
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Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Updated with stuff ordered for the install.
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| anthony |
Jan 24 2007, 07:43 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
QUOTE red loctite (something I need to get for all of this) Be careful with red loctite. It's the more permanent type. Blue or purple is the lesser strength color. |
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| pffft |
Jan 24 2007, 08:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 18-January 05 From: sierra foothills Member No.: 3,465 |
Clutch cable?
Accel cable? speedo cable? If you do one you might as well do all cv washers? shifter bushings? Make sure you have someplace to connect your breather hoses distributor for the carbs? patrick |
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| KaptKaos |
Jan 24 2007, 10:02 PM
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Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE(pffft @ Jan 24 2007, 06:01 PM) Clutch cable? Accel cable? speedo cable? If you do one you might as well do all cv washers? shifter bushings? Make sure you have someplace to connect your breather hoses distributor for the carbs? patrick Speedo, clutch and shift bushings all newish. thanks for the reminder of the breather. |
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| Grimstead |
Jan 25 2007, 09:31 AM
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Cheaky Monkey Group: Members Posts: 835 Joined: 20-March 05 From: Corona, Ca Member No.: 3,789 Region Association: Southern California |
You don't need to do it before the install but if you add a CHT gauge (and you should), doing the wiring at the same time you put the tin back on will make your life easier down the road...
Also, check the clutch, I'm 85% sure it's in really good shape but it's better to check now. AlsoX2, While the oil is still fresh, I didn't change it after I pressure washed the engine. |
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