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post Jan 21 2007, 09:46 PM
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My favorite chili ever is Chasen's Chili. It's not very Texasy, it has beans, and grated carrots, parsley, butter, ground pork and beef. It's a lot better than the weird ingredients make it sound.
Chasen's was a super expensive restaurant in Los Angeles, my Stepdad said that in the 70's the chili was $18.00 a bowl!
I'll try to find the recipe.
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post Sep 1 2008, 07:28 AM
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this weekend is PERFECT for chili making!

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post Sep 1 2008, 09:09 AM
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If it has beans in it you need to be calling it bean stew or something. It might be tasty but it's sure as hell not chili. Pasta? Oh my Lord. And if you learned about what chili is "supposed" to be like from that Crap in a Can all I can tell you is that's that's like learning about sex from TV. Not even a little like the real thing.
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post Sep 1 2008, 09:11 AM
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A D.C. area local chain (Hard Times Cafe) makes a "Texas" chili that uses ground beef and spices. It contains no tomatoes. When you order it, you can order it "wet" a/k/a extra grease. You soak it up with cornbread. This is the perfect restaurant to dine at if you do the Atkins diet. One helping of this chili (without cornbread) will kick you over the edge into ketosis if your body is wavering.

They offer beans, but the beans are cooked separately from the chili. (I never get beans.)
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post Sep 1 2008, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(zymurgist @ Sep 1 2008, 07:11 AM) *

A D.C. area local chain (Hard Times Cafe) makes a "Texas" chili that uses ground beef and spices. It contains no tomatoes. When you order it, you can order it "wet" a/k/a extra grease. You soak it up with cornbread. This is the perfect restaurant to dine at if you do the Atkins diet. One helping of this chili (without cornbread) will kick you over the edge into ketosis if your body is wavering.

They offer beans, but the beans are cooked separately from the chili. (I never get beans.)


i hate to chime in on food stuff but i,m up and bored so here it goes.
chili w/ beans is mexican
chili w/o beans is texas
i do this for a living and here is the final word on chili
the best chili is the one you like the best (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Sep 1 2008, 10:28 AM
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Just had to throw this out there.

I was born and grew up in Texas, and my Dad and grandparents are still there.

I never had beanless chili until I moved East.

When I was growing up, chili was just chili. The "Texas mystique" of beanless chili seems to be a recent thing. Dare I say, snobbery?

As to Hard Times Cafe. I have only been twice, and was sick for a day each time. Way too greasy.

When I make mine, it gets beans and beef at 1 to 1 ratios. I also usually put in corn, unsweetened chocolate, tequila, Cholula, and anything else I happen to have on hand that might taste good. I've never had a recipe, and it never tastes like it came out of a can.

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post Sep 1 2008, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(nycchef @ Sep 1 2008, 08:23 AM) *

the best chili is the one you like the best (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)


Which at the end of the day is the truth... as long as it doesn't have any damned beans in it, because if it has beans in it it isn't chili. Maybe "chili beans", but not "chili".

Chili is from Texas and is a traditional Texas dish. Here are about a hundred recipes for genuine Texas chili, including state fair winners from thirty years ago, and there's not one bean in the bunch: http://www.g6csy.net/chile/recp-texas.html

You know I have to take that back, "Matt's Yankee Chili" on that list has beans in it...
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post Sep 1 2008, 12:30 PM
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Here's my Lonely Neuron Carnitas Chili Verde recipe, from the last batch that I made. It's probably nowhere near authentic, but it has won cookoffs here in Oregon. It's just a hint of heat... mild, but still too spicy for my wife. Add more peppers to make it hotter.

I don't measure while I cook, so this is just a WAG.

9 lbs Pork Shoulder
Olive oil
1 box (32oz) Pacific brand beef stock
1 box (32oz) Pacific brand chicken stock
Cumin, probably about 1 tbsp
Oregano, probably about 1 tbsp
Garlic, ~3 cloves, minced
Fresh ground black pepper, about 1 tsp
Salt to taste, probably about 1 tsp
Smoked Paprika, about 1 tsp
1 large yellow onion, diced
1 whole Habanero pepper, minced
1 whole yellow chili pepper, minced
1 Anaheim pepper, roasted, then diced.
1 can Las Palmas green enchilada sauce
1 jar La Victoria salsa verde
Corn Masa
Fresh cilantro

Cut the pork into bite size pieces, trimming most of the fat. Brown the pork in olive oil, then braise in beef and chicken stock… I used all of the beef and most of the chicken stock.

If there is any fond left in the pan, deglaze with some of the stock. Add the onion, garlic, salt, cumin, oregano, paprika and peppers. Bring to a low boil and simmer until meat is tender and falls apart easily, about two hours. If you cook longer, you'll get a pulled pork texture.

Add the enchilada sauce and salsa verde, bring back to a simmer and adjust thickness with corn masa. Chop the cilantro and add just before serving.

A warning about cooking with hot peppers, especially habaneros: wash your hands, otherwise the capsaicin will stay on your hands, and get in your eyes or irritate other sensitive areas...
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post Sep 1 2008, 02:05 PM
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The Texans feel as passionately (and irrationally) about their chili as the Taliban feels about Mohammed.

Apparently, no Italians ever settled in Texas. Chili without beans is spicy spaghetti sauce. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

-Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)
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post Sep 1 2008, 02:22 PM
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Hey, no need to go insulting Italians... but turn that around and you make my point. When you put beans in your bolognese sauce (gak!) is it still bolognese?
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post Sep 1 2008, 02:31 PM
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I don't think I've ever had bologne sauce... do they trim the plastic rings off the slices before they make it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Tell ya what - join the convoy from Texas to the Rocket City Ramble, and I'll make you a batch of my own chili. If, after tasting it, you honestly say you don't like it - I'll personally pay your registration fee. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

-Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)
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post Sep 1 2008, 06:07 PM
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This thread started me thinking about chili.

I make my own, with a recipe I have had for years. However, I have always used store bought chili powder and other dried spices. I can't help but think that I might get a more unique or flavorful chili if I made my own chili powder or chili paste. I don't know which chilis to use or in what proportions, so if any of you do this, please let me know.

My recipe uses pork. I have also seen recipes that use pork butt or rib meat. Does anyone else do this? If so, what are the ratios and what's the process?

Yes, I like beans too. Mostly red kidney beans, but I am open to suggestions.
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post Sep 1 2008, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(Rusty @ Sep 1 2008, 01:31 PM) *

I don't think I've ever had bologne sauce... do they trim the plastic rings off the slices before they make it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Yeah, I've never heard of bologne sauce, so can't help you with that. We make our bolognese sauce in the Italian style, lots of meat, pork and veal, lots of garlic, very little tomato sauce, butter instead of cream, and no damned fagioli!

QUOTE(Rusty @ Sep 1 2008, 01:31 PM) *

Tell ya what - join the convoy from Texas to the Rocket City Ramble, and I'll make you a batch of my own chili. If, after tasting it, you honestly say you don't like it - I'll personally pay your registration fee. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I trust your chili beans are good, Rusty, so I'm sure that's a generous offer. Unfortunately I'll be on the west coast that week, so maybe some other time?
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post Sep 18 2014, 07:03 PM
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I can't count the times I've come back here for my recipe. Tonight is another one of those times. :-)
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post Oct 31 2019, 08:52 AM
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Back again for my recipe.

This weekend is gonna be perfect for chili. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)

-R
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post Oct 31 2019, 09:46 AM
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I've been thinking about making a pot of chili as well. I usually use ground beef as opposed to diced beef. And yes, I add beans, either pintos or red kidneys. Both ingredients are considered to be no-no's in chili cook-off practice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Speaking of canned chili, I do like Hormel Chili without Beans on my chili dogs. Has that nasty chili dog taste you get from hot dog stands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 31 2019, 09:51 AM
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Ok admin do your job and move this to the proper forum.........Oh my bad it’s the same admin who started this post in 2007 and now reposted this non 914 content again in 2019... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
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QUOTE(Rusty @ Oct 31 2019, 09:52 AM) *

Back again for my recipe.

This weekend is gonna be perfect for chili. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)

-R


Wendy's "Chili" aka "Grill scrapings" has beans in it.


Putting beans in chili is like putting an elevator in an outhouse.... it don't belong, and only leads to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif)
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QUOTE(Coondog @ Oct 31 2019, 08:51 AM) *

Ok admin do your job and move this to the proper forum.........Oh my bad it’s the same admin who started this post in 2007 and now reposted this non 914 content again in 2019... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

This thread is clearly marked OT to allow people like you to ignore it ...
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