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> F.Y.I. Updated info on early 73 vin 47329000001 thru, 47329001100ish. if yours is in there i need info.!!!
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post Jan 22 2010, 08:41 PM
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Here are some pix of 4732901102 - Built 9/72 ...

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FYI - These pix were from when it was listed for sale in Portland OR - which clainmed it was from Idaho IIRC, but the last that I heard it "lives" in Anaheim Hills CA (from the guy who bought it off the ad).

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it looks real clean. your previously owned car?

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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jan 22 2010, 06:29 PM) *

OK - now to screw up how we're figuring out the first 1000 or so produced .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Apparently we cannot go by the VIN alone for when a 914 was built to see if it was among the first 1000 in the 1973Therefore, an earlier VIN could've been built after a later one, such as:
You can read more on this topic here:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=103085
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=103136

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So I'd suggest that folks ADD their Build Dates to their VINs here.

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interesting

i guess the first obvious giveaway would be the vinyl a=pillars, of course many p.o.'s have removed this. so i wander what the latest build date is. but are there cars slated for europe but shipped to u.s. in the first or are some non exported? any euro early's out there?
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post Jan 23 2010, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE(orange914 @ Jan 22 2010, 11:15 PM) *

it looks real clean. your previously owned car?

mike


I wish! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Nope - I've only ever had 5 cars & I'm 57+ now, & that grey one was my 3rd car!

I was using that Signal Orange early-73 2L & Sahara Beige Steve's on here at the O&H "Few & Rare..." as examples to go by, in getting mine back to original, & I just lucked out that the buyer lives close by! ... still haven't seen him show up at our local PCA cars & coffee deal though! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I always go camera in hand, just in case! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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BTW Mike & Kenny - apparently the VINs were produced out of order, so the first cars were more correctly represented as 8/72 or 9/72 build dates on the door jamb VIN sticker, &/or by the Chassis no. on the Karmann plate in the front of L door jamb. This Signal Orange 914-2.0 is an earlier VIN than mine & built in 9/72, whereas mine was stickered as an 8/72 build date. More on that topic is here:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=103085
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=103136

When I strip mine for body work & repainting, I'll check if it has early or late doors, A-pillar vinyl (evidence before repaints maybe under the trim/gaskets?), etc.

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BTW - the owner of this one avidfanjpl/John & I have decoded his chassis no. build date & mine, and his chassis no. is about a week before my 8/31/72 chassis no. - but his VIN is a 9/72, while mine is an earlier 8/72 - even with his VIN being 582 earlier than mine!!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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BTW - now that I cleaned the old overspray off, you can see the L80E inside the dots/etc., under the Sahara Beige paint or tan tinted primer, then Gold (L97G or L97H) from when I bought it in Dec. 75, Copper Metallic (L99K) that I had it repainted in Aug. 76, then the 911/930 Anthracite Gray Metallic that I repainted it the last time in April/May 80 - but it's going back to the original L80E Light Ivory in my resto now. I'll check for any evidence of a past A-pillar vinyl when I strip down the windshield frame in the process, but with all that "personalization" of paint colors over its first 13+ years, I'm not holding my breath for anything remaining, unless it's caught under the trim or something.

This shows the oddity of VINs & US-DOT VIN Sticker Dates vs. Chassis No. build dates on our 914s!
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Hey all
My name is mike, I’ve been a member of 914world (914club) since march 2005 when my son Kenny (a.k.a. orange914) bought his first 914. at present he owns an early 1973 that is a keeper. This is why I’m researching this particular 914

From what I’ve learned the first 1000 1973 914’s were slated for the European market but sent to the U.S. due to early 73 demand. They have some unique features that I’m attempting to research. i want to thank many of you who have inputted so far. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

If you have ANY info. On this car or have noticed any oddities drop a line. Please e-mail me

Thanks, mike (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
209-537-3749

My e-mail address is:

A914r@yahoo.com



Thanks to all those who have responded and participated in my fact gathering on the first 1000 1973 Porsche 914’s. There are 43 registered owners on the 914world.com at present. Generally these cars are known as “first 1000”. I’ve been informed by auto Atlanta that they have found there are a few more than 1000 sent over. It does stop however by at least v.i.n. #4732901100. These cars where originally built and equipped for the European market. Because of high demand in the U.S. in 1973, the first 1000+ V.I.N.# 914’s where slated for Germany but sent to California dealers. From my findings I’m impressed with this nitch 914 because it is in my opinion a very balanced 914. By that I mean it’s got the benefits of a factory improvements and upgrades that come with a few years of production. It’s especially desirable for auto crossing due to factory upgrades and is lighter than U.S. 73 and up models, and is without the heavy smog equipment that comes with later models.

The below information is a collection of owners, history and facts about this car (4732900000 thru 4732901100?). There are 43 members in the 914 roster that have v.i.n. #’s that fall in this category and have been contacted. This info has been submitted by club members from first hand knowledge of their own early 1973 914’s:

Here are some of the unique facts I’ve learned, any additional info would be great!:

1 vinyl on a-pillars (around windshield)
2 front hubs non-hub centric (72 earlier style)
3 turn signal switch/wiring harness (72 earlier style)
4 doors lightweight/non reinforced, early (72 earlier) window regulators
5 1.7 liter fuel injected engine
6 Side shift transmission
7 15x5.5 dealer installed “Dan gurney” wheels, sometimes called western spoke rims, some may have had pedrinis
8 1970-1972 headlight switch and wiring
9 1970-1972 light rain tray
10 Sold out of California dealerships
11 front bumpers had 73 “tits” and holes for European license plate


Past and present owners and their stories:

v.i.n. #4732900001
Aaron Cox (Aaron Cox)

v.i.n. #4732900005
(cptkraut)

v.i.n. #4732900025
(dee)

v.i.n. #4732900045
"Stephen Snares" (defianty) stv1701@blueyonder.co.uk
Owned since 9/06 manufacture date 8/72
Brought into U.K. 1999 from California, 2.0 engine, (L80E) light ivory

v.i.n. #4732900050
(Jeff)

v.i.n. #4732900067
(mudfoot)
Zionsville, Indiana

v.i.n. #4732900135
(storotex914)

v.i.n. #4732900150
(Neil J)

v.i.n. #4732900151
Matt Wardell (Orange)

v.i.n. #4732900157
Kenny miller (orange914) a914r@yahoo.com 209-537-3749
Owned since 8/05
Always California car, 1.7 fuel injection, (L20E) signal orange, original blue plate California car. Bought from 2nd (?) owner who reportedly bought it from a collector (Napa, California). It’s been kept stock except mechanical upgrades and a few personal touches. We’re having fun showing the car and just plain enjoying it and the good crew of “teener” fanatics

v.i.n. #4732900158
John lush (johnlush) johnlush@mac.com


v.i.n. #4732900159
(racerx9146)

v.i.n. #4732900193
Pete stout (horizontily-opposed) excmag@yahoo.com
Sold and has always been in ca. bahia red/black interior, came with 1.7 not sure of present engine but it hasn’t been out since new owner in 1986 and is a great runner, car has 250,000 miles on it, reportedly 3 to 4 past owners, been in the family of the present owner since 1986, at one time owned by a member of the rock band “huey Lewis and the news”, in 1991 5 lug conversion- removed u.s. side markers, a pillar vinyl, early front bumper

v.i.n. #4732900213
(p914jeff)

v.i.n. #4732900288
(guero65)

v.i.n. #4732900335
(VintageExcellence)

v.i.n. #4732900336
(loflier)

v.i.n. #4732900504
(ppickerell)
Pleasanton, California

v.i.n. #4732900525
Bruce alert (Bruce allert) bcaphoto@comcast.net
Sold “pumpkin” to Jeff Hines north of Seattle Washington
New owner installed 2.0

v.i.n. #4732900525
Chris (effutuo) 425-328-5788
Everett, Washington
(L32K)

v.i.n. #4732900527
Ray warren (ray warren) rayjwarren@hotmail.com 705-734-2130

v.i.n. #4732900552
(iamchappy)

V.i.n. #4732900552
David Chapman (iamchappy) chappy@mn.rr.com 952-544-8708
3.2 turbo

V.i.n. #4732900560
Andrew (arc914) 705-254-3664

V.i.n. #4732900575
(blaize)
Blaze Sold 2005, previous owner raced
Moved from New Orleans owner when sold in 2005 to new home in Topeka

v.i.n. #4732900586
(wolcott)

v.i.n. #4732900636
(mihai914)

v.i.n. #4732900644
(yellowbird rs)

v.i.n. #4732900648
(swl)

v.i.n. #4732900656
(rjandk1)

v.i.n. #4732900700
(esmith6)

v.i.n. #4732900752
(Rob Annett)
(L64K) forest green
Has been converted to right hand drive, lives in Sydney Australia.

v.i.n. #4732900760
(Larry)

v.i.n. #4732900836
Tom (tommy914)


V.i.n. #4732900852
(LEDCO)

V.i.n. #4732900867
Unknown () dead vehicle XXX

V.i.n. #4732900918
(T I2 O Y)

V.i.n. #4732900918
(2-OH!)

V.i.n. #4732900936
(Jay Gratton)

V.i.n. #4732900965
(wilchek)
(L65K) Ravenna green
Paint appears to be the original color. However, it appears the wrong Karmen plate was put on the door jam. The body numbers are off by two numbers. I would love to find the Karmen plate with the stamp that is in the trunk which is 5049599. The plate in door jam is 5049601.?? L20E which is orange but the car is green

V.i.n. #4732901005
(beatles774)

V.i.n. #4732901017
(Leon)

V.i.n. #4732901017
(Cassidy bolger)

V.i.n. #4732901032
(rrifle)
My dad bought this car new in 1973. He arrived at my graduation from Ohio U in the 914, and being the spoiled brat that I am, I told him he shouldn't have... He replied" I didn't. I just put you through College. Get your own."
He sold the car to me in 1980. I am one lucky guy, even if I did pay full book for the car.

V.i.n. #4732901077
(jonwatts)

v.i.n. #
Mark Allen allaircooled@yahoo.com
3.2 911 6 calendar

My son Kenny’s (orange914) 1973
v.i.n. #4732900157
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2276802

Thanks, Kenny “orange914”
Contact me with ANY additional pictures and/or information through  e-mail  at:

A914r@yahoo.com

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is it just these 1000 cars that have vinyl on A-pillars ?

Anyone closeup pictures on A-pillars ?

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QUOTE(Niklas @ May 25 2011, 09:07 AM) *

Anyone closeup pictures on A-pillars ?


http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=40443
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QUOTE(Niklas @ May 25 2011, 09:07 AM) *

is it just these 1000 cars that have vinyl on A-pillars ?

Anyone closeup pictures on A-pillars ?

Niklas


Niklas - here you go - close-ups, & next post (due to pic post size limit).

The first 1000 may go higher since this is VIN ....1102, perhaps to 1500 or 2000+/- - who knows, but is only the early 73 MY 914s built in 2nd half of 1972 as far as anyone has seen.

FYI - this is John/avidfanjpl 73 2L now & these were from the seller's ad in 09.

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... & Driver's side A-pillar close-up -

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... & Top of Windshield/Windscreen Frame/Driver's side A-pillar close-up -

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Note that curling up of the lower edge of the vinyl on the A-pillar is a common problem, which is probably why they used the thin lower chrome strips on the Sails at the Rollbar, and perhaps partly why they stopped the A-pillar look (aside from cost reduction).

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Note that curling up of the lower edge of the vinyl on the A-pillar is a common problem, which is probably why they used the thin lower chrome strips on the Sails at the Rollbar, and perhaps partly why they stopped the A-pillar look (aside from cost reduction).

I'm amazed at the hammer and anvil tech. back then in coach builing fit & finish standards, compare the body alignment to even a kia nowdays. Not bad mouthing the 914, it was a product of the times. Wood truck boards etc. I'm guessing it was just a cost thing. I do think it gave the car a better less top heavy look.
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Ahhh, the 70's Mike - land of the vinyl "Landau" tops on anything that rolled! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I even had one on the big ole 69 Pontiac Ventura 4dr I bought from my Dad during college in 71 when my 68 Opel Kadette's 1.1L engine blew!

Still trying to find evidence if my early73 2L VIN...1954 had the A-pillar vinyl or not, & will report back later.

Is your Orange 914-2.0 listed at Hemmings yet?
If so - then post a link here so interested parties can (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) & maybe plan to bid!
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V.I.N # 4732900151
Matt Wardell Twin Falls ID 83301
Orange. 1.7. D-Jet.

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QUOTE(Tom_T @ May 25 2011, 04:41 PM) *

Ahhh, the 70's Mike - land of the vinyl "Landau" tops on anything that rolled! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I even had one on the big ole 69 Pontiac Ventura 4dr I bought from my Dad during college in 71 when my 68 Opel Kadette's 1.1L engine blew!

Still trying to find evidence if my early73 2L VIN...1954 had the A-pillar vinyl or not, & will report back later.

Is your Orange 914-2.0 listed at Hemmings yet?
If so - then post a link here so interested parties can (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) & maybe plan to bid!

Yep it sold before making it to the hemmings print.

Tom I bestow the honor to you to take th torch and head up early 73' info.

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Just thought I would add an update on this vehicle
v.i.n. #4732900525
Bruce alert (Bruce allert) bcaphoto@comcast.net
Sold “pumpkin” to Jeff Hines north of Seattle Washington
New owner installed 2.0

v.i.n. #4732900525
Chris (effutuo) 425-328-5788
Everett, Washington
(L32K)

I own it now and Chris flared it out, put a 911 2.2 six in it, and other stuff.
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ May 25 2011, 04:41 PM) *

Ahhh, the 70's Mike - land of the vinyl "Landau" tops on anything that rolled! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I even had one on the big ole 69 Pontiac Ventura 4dr I bought from my Dad during college in 71 when my 68 Opel Kadette's 1.1L engine blew!

Still trying to find evidence if my early73 2L VIN...1954 had the A-pillar vinyl or not, & will report back later.

Is your Orange 914-2.0 listed at Hemmings yet?
If so - then post a link here so interested parties can (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) & maybe plan to bid!

Yep it sold before making it to the hemmings print.

Tom I bestow the honor to you to take th torch and head up early 73' info.

Mike


Hey Mike, seriously - I was hoping you'd keep on the early 73 info topic as a way to keep active on the baord here, and was hoping to convince Pat Garvey & "the powers that be" on here to have it as a nailed topic in the O&H forum.

That is, if you're game to have a semi-official role here! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE(orange914 @ Jun 9 2011, 11:05 AM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ May 25 2011, 04:41 PM) *

Ahhh, the 70's Mike - land of the vinyl "Landau" tops on anything that rolled! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I even had one on the big ole 69 Pontiac Ventura 4dr I bought from my Dad during college in 71 when my 68 Opel Kadette's 1.1L engine blew!

Still trying to find evidence if my early73 2L VIN...1954 had the A-pillar vinyl or not, & will report back later.

Is your Orange 914-2.0 listed at Hemmings yet?
If so - then post a link here so interested parties can (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) & maybe plan to bid!

Yep it sold before making it to the hemmings print.

Tom I bestow the honor to you to take th torch and head up early 73' info.

Mike


Hey Mike, seriously - I was hoping you'd keep on the early 73 info topic as a way to keep active on the baord here, and was hoping to convince Pat Garvey & "the powers that be" on here to have it as a nailed topic in the O&H forum.

That is, if you're game to have a semi-official role here! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Sure, semi official status sounds good. It was fun digging up the info on these. Your input really helped out too.

I'm really glad the car went to a great owner. Never know when another 914 may show up here, so no plans to cut and run. Loved the 6 years our family was involved with them. Not sure if you've seen my newest venture.
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