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> Creeping crud, what the hell is this stuff
Queenie
post Nov 22 2003, 07:13 PM
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I went to put some oil in the car this morning and I was greeted with another batch of this weird looking goo you see in the below photo. I've seen it a few times on the 914; I've been driving air coolers for 15 years and don't recall ever seeing it on any other car.

Any idea what it might be or where it might come from?


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redshift
post Nov 22 2003, 07:15 PM
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Looks like foaming insulation..

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post Nov 22 2003, 07:15 PM
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Don't know how it could happen but, looks like water in the oil. DH
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post Nov 22 2003, 07:17 PM
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water (condesation) and oil? queenie? is your car a 1.8 w/fi? if so, would you post a picture of your fancy new engine? primarily the hoses.

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post Nov 22 2003, 07:19 PM
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doesn't that indicate that the car needs to be driven longer? short runs cause that?
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post Nov 22 2003, 07:19 PM
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On a /6, it was called "porsche mayo" by Bruce Anderson. On the fall side of life, or on an infrequently driven 6, you get the whitish goo on the oil tank cap. It's moisture. If the car is drivenen often enough to bring it up to operating temps, the h20 will be "burned off".

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post Nov 22 2003, 07:20 PM
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It's a 2.0 with FI and, tragically, I still have the same crappy old oil burning engine I've always had - which is going to need either valve guides or rings or an exorcism soon. I do, however, have all new hoses. I can try to take some pictures of it tomorrow morning if you want.

It seems to me that the times when I've seen this goo before have been after rainy periods. But it hasn't rained here for at least a week.
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post Nov 22 2003, 07:23 PM
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I drive the hell out of the car. I did a 120-mile round trip last night to see a band.

If it's not dangerous, I won't worry about it. It just looks freaky.
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post Nov 22 2003, 07:26 PM
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i thought the "ex" had just built an engine for you? i need 1.8 pictures. gotta lose the 2 BIG, ORANGE, hoses some one put on.

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post Nov 22 2003, 07:28 PM
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All we did was pull the engine and clean it up. We didn't have a garage to work in, which is the main reason why we didn't pursue the valve guide thing. Working on that kind of stuff outdoors, without a proper workbench even, is really not the best way to do it.

Except for the oil burning, the engine is sound. I don't see any reason to rebuild the whole thing.
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post Nov 22 2003, 07:29 PM
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did'ja ever see the movie "The Blob"? old versoin & new (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 22 2003, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(Bruce Allert @ Nov 22 2003, 05:29 PM)
did'ja ever see the movie "The Blob"?

IT'S ALIVE!!!!!! AIEEEE!!!!

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post Nov 22 2003, 08:06 PM
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I would recomend you change the oil and filter.
Remove the filler tube and clean it and the pcv system.

Change your oil to synthetic.

Ever since going to synthetic in mine I have never seen it occur again.

I believe the foam is from two reasons combined.

Short trips/moisture.
Hot running temps,,,possibly to hot..

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post Nov 22 2003, 08:07 PM
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The water comes from short trips, and it does raise your temps, and wear your rings.


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post Nov 22 2003, 08:24 PM
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I recommend you use a condom.....hey we all love our 914s but it looks like you've taken it too far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 22 2003, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(Queenie @ Nov 22 2003, 05:13 PM)
Any idea what it might be or where it might come from?

water in the oil ...

gotta drive her for a while so she get's really hot (like at least 1 hour, and don't be shy with the gas pedal).
only way to get it out.

oh, and btw. before you do that, change the oil!
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post Nov 22 2003, 10:50 PM
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The car's not due for an oil change yet, and I'm not in a position to just drop it at the mechanic and have it done. It's going to have to wait until it's due, unless anyone can convince me that I'm going to destroy the engine by not having it done tomorrow.

Synthetic oil is not an option. I cannot afford it, especially not in an engine that burns a quart a week under heavy use. I use Castrol Syntec blend.

The car doesn't run hot according to the oil temp gauge...I don't know for sure how accurate it is, but I don't have any reason to believe that it's giving me bad information.

I'm not overly concerned about the wear to the rings at this point because I know I'm going to put new pistons and cylinders in the car sometime in the next year, probably in the next six or eight months.

I only drove it about twenty miles today...I'll look at it again tomorrow, and I will probably be doing a slightly longer drive then. Hopefully that will burn it off.

I apologize if I seem ungrateful for anyone's information...I'm just not in a position to do some of what's suggested. In a perfect world it would all get dealt with immediately if not sooner but I don't live in a perfect world and I have to get by with what I've got - which ain't much.
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post Nov 23 2003, 07:05 AM
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queenie, you live in san luis obispo(sp)? near the ocean? if so high moisture content in the air could be compounding the prob.

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post Nov 23 2003, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Nov 23 2003, 05:05 AM)
queenie, you live in san luis obispo(sp)? near the ocean? if so high moisture content in the air could be compounding the prob.

kevin

Yeah, Kevin. Pretty close to the ocean although not right on the coast...and I don't have a garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Nov 23 2003, 10:51 AM
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Yeah, change the oil when you have a chance. Remove and clean the filler neck. I don't recommend using synthetic oil on an older air cooled engine. Tends to make any leaks you have worse.....

Since you live in a benign weather area, switching to a straight heavy viscosity oil will help on reducing smoke and burning oil. I have used straight 40 and sometimes 50w on older worn motors.
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