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> Engine bay fuel line clamps, what type
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post Feb 22 2007, 01:15 PM
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UP-DATE...

Just got off the phone with the local Porsche dealership and he said there is no statute of limitations regarding the recall. He did say that there may be a problem with parts availability. I'll drop by and see what they say when I get there in person.

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post Feb 22 2007, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(MrKona @ Feb 14 2007, 08:31 PM) *

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OEM style for $.69 each
http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=311133515


I bought these, very nice, great deal in my opinion.

Speaking of good deals, I just took a chance today and ordered 4 fuel hose elbows, but not the Porsche elbows from Auto Atlanta. ~$13.00 EACH is too rich for me. Instead, I ordered 4 BMW fuel hose elbows, BMW part # 16121176821 from this place: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

$2.93 each. I believe they should be 7mm I'll let you know how they fit once I receive them.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/ind...M&siteid=26

I found the part number from this website:

http://www.firstfives.org/faq/fuelhose/fuelhose.html


I got my elbows from Stoddard's. $11.13 each. Part number is 043-133-187. Also, I got a bag of ABA hoseclamps from UltimateGarage.com. I think there were 25 in the bag.
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post Feb 22 2007, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(914Rookie @ Feb 22 2007, 11:15 AM) *

UP-DATE...

Just got off the phone with the local Porsche dealership and he said there is no statute of limitations regarding the recall. He did say that there may be a problem with parts availability. I'll drop by and see what they say when I get there in person.

Greg

new acid resistant rubber fuel line and clamps are in short supply? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Mar 2 2007, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(MrKona @ Feb 14 2007, 05:31 PM) *

QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Feb 14 2007, 08:57 AM) *

OEM style for $.69 each
http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=311133515


I bought these, very nice, great deal in my opinion.

Speaking of good deals, I just took a chance today and ordered 4 fuel hose elbows, but not the Porsche elbows from Auto Atlanta. ~$13.00 EACH is too rich for me. Instead, I ordered 4 BMW fuel hose elbows, BMW part # 16121176821 from this place: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

$2.93 each. I believe they should be 7mm I'll let you know how they fit once I receive them.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/ind...M&siteid=26

I found the part number from this website:

http://www.firstfives.org/faq/fuelhose/fuelhose.html


I received the fuel line elbows. They will work great for me, especially for the price. However, they do have markings on them which may not be appropriate for originality. Here are a few pictures. The clamp in this picture is from busdepot.com. I had my injectors cleaned by WitchHunter Performance, witchhunter.com.

- Bryan


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post Mar 3 2007, 09:15 AM
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I ordered a set too and I am still waiting for em.
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post Mar 3 2007, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Mar 3 2007, 10:15 AM) *

I ordered a set too and I am still waiting for em.

Do you think it's possible to "create" your own elbows by using somehting like a heat gun & the appropriate cradle device? What if you just used a n appropriate pice uf fuel line, connected everything properly & let it form itself over time?

Why the need for a pre-formed elbow?

Could you get kinking in the line if you didn't use an elbow?

Reason I ask is that's what I did 16 years ago. No problems, no leaks, no kinking.

Only reason I'm replacing is because they ARE 16 years old.

Insights?

BTW: 16 years ago, when I redid the lines last, I bought an extra 12 meters of the 7mm fabric covered lines. I though the price was ridiculous when is was $4/meter! Thought I'd have enough for the next time. Guess what - it's rotted! Mr. Smart Guy loses again. Buy it when you need it & it's fresh.
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post Mar 4 2007, 10:36 AM
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You can use short pieces of rubber fuel line but it tends to sit out straight banging into the engine shelf. If you force it up like the 90 elbows yes, it kinks shutting off the flow.

I am always looking to do things right as the cheapest cost....
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post Mar 5 2007, 08:52 PM
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You can use short pieces of rubber fuel line but it tends to sit out straight banging into the engine shelf. If you force it up like the 90 elbows yes, it kinks shutting off the flow.

I am always looking to do things right as the cheapest cost....

OK, we're talking about very short/inexpensive pieces of straight fuel hose. My order is placed for 6 meters - fabric covered.

Now if ANYONE lets this out to my wife...... well, I won't be the only one to suffer. here's what I'll do. She has a curling iron that is 3/4inch she almost never uses. See where I'm going here? I think it'll work, for pennies on the dollar.

I'll make my own elbows! Will follow up.
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post Mar 5 2007, 09:25 PM
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I ordered the $3 BMW ones....8 of em.


You want to start a fire don't you!
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post Mar 6 2007, 08:20 PM
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I ordered the $3 BMW ones....8 of em.


You want to start a fire don't you!


I like fire! Fire makes me feel so..... Kidding!!!!

Geoff, tell us more about the BMW ones - new to me, at least. Price is sure right.

Only place I want fire is in my fireplace - especially tonight (-15WCF).
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post Mar 6 2007, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Mar 6 2007, 06:20 PM) *

QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Mar 5 2007, 10:25 PM) *

I ordered the $3 BMW ones....8 of em.


You want to start a fire don't you!


I like fire! Fire makes me feel so..... Kidding!!!!

Geoff, tell us more about the BMW ones - new to me, at least. Price is sure right.

Only place I want fire is in my fireplace - especially tonight (-15WCF).
Pat


Hi Pat,

I installed the BMW elbows (See pictures and web link for supplier in an earlier post). They fit great! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

- Bryan
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post Mar 6 2007, 11:28 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) mine haven't shown up yet.
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post Mar 7 2007, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(MrKona @ Mar 6 2007, 11:16 PM) *

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Mar 6 2007, 06:20 PM) *

QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Mar 5 2007, 10:25 PM) *

I ordered the $3 BMW ones....8 of em.


You want to start a fire don't you!


I like fire! Fire makes me feel so..... Kidding!!!!

Geoff, tell us more about the BMW ones - new to me, at least. Price is sure right.

Only place I want fire is in my fireplace - especially tonight (-15WCF).
Pat


Hi Pat,

I installed the BMW elbows (See pictures and web link for supplier in an earlier post). They fit great! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

- Bryan


Bryan - they look great!

But...... and I know most of you disagree with me, I want fabric covrered!

My 914's sole purpose is hardcore concours, so they have to be fabric covered. Yeah, Iknow, "they won't last as long", "they suck up juices from the battery". My batteries have never "juiced" my lines. Don't know why, because I aut-x'd the car for years. The lines I'm replacing are 16 years old (~4,000 miles) and I'm replacing them, not because of leaks, but because they are 16 years old. Worked OK & that's why I'm staying with fabric covered.

Many of you guys have tried to get me to change. I appreciate your concerns. I'm sticking with the originals until they are not available from any source.

Now, with that in mind, I'll let you know how things work out with the curling iron approach to elbows.
Pat

Yes, I AM a hardnose!
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post Mar 7 2007, 09:17 PM
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So again Pat, why do they have tobe fabric covered as the Factory Recall campaign installed rubber covered hose and 90' injector elbows? It seems like you actually would be docked points for being incorrect for having fabric covered hoses and non 90' injector hose.

Sounds like you are creating something that isn't correct.


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post Mar 8 2007, 10:07 AM
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I think Pat is trying to make a 1972 914 "time capsule". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 8 2007, 11:37 AM
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Pat, how are you reproducing that crimp-on clamp that came from the factory? I think that if you have to use a standard clamp, that the smooth hose is MORE original! Jim
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post Mar 8 2007, 01:06 PM
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you can get those crimp clamps if you want to be "as delivered" but I don't think its worth the hassle.


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post Mar 8 2007, 02:34 PM
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you can get those crimp clamps if you want to be "as delivered" but I don't think its worth the hassle.



Mine were different. Maybe because it's a '76? The photo below shows the same type crimp mine had, but not on a 914 injector.....

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post Mar 8 2007, 05:23 PM
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Thats only at the injector supplied by Bosch. The pic I posted is for the fuel lines.
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Oh. I get it. I'm still wondering how Pat is going to reproduce that big honkin clamp at the injector!
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