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| Joe Ricard |
 Feb 27 2007, 06:11 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU  Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92  |
Seems to have all the bella and whistles to make race cars go.
http://www.racetep.com/acvwinj.html My co driver is really wanting me to get one of these or some sort of EFI. He doesn't know carbs but can tune EFI all day long. |
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| blitZ |
Feb 27 2007, 08:05 AM
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Beer please... Group: Members Posts: 2,223 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Lawrenceville, GA Member No.: 4,719 Region Association: South East States |
That's not a bad price including TB and injectors. Someone buy one and try it out.
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| Joe Ricard |
Feb 27 2007, 08:57 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
QUOTE(blitZ @ Feb 27 2007, 08:05 AM)  That's not a bad price including TB and injectors. Someone buy one and try it out. Someone in the business sponsor me and I'll try it out. If it is going to be worth a crap in real world / street Autocross with heavy use then I would be the one to be the test dummy. |
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| Mark Henry |
Feb 27 2007, 09:11 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The red-line weber guy sometimes hangs out on the shoptalkforums on the FI forum.
They use a Pantera ECU, just want you to know they don't build their own ECU. It is their TB's but the rest is a package they put together to form a "kit". check out this... http://www.efi101.com/forum/viewforum.php?...57cbefc7b198b5e Don't forget the price of a WB meter. |
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| yarin |
Feb 27 2007, 09:19 AM
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'14-X'in FOOL Group: Members Posts: 988 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Guttenberg, NJ Member No.: 693 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Feb 27 2007, 10:11 AM) The red-line weber guy sometimes hangs out on the shoptalkforums on the FI forum. They use a Pantera ECU, just want you to know they don't build their own ECU. It is their TB's but the rest is a package they put together to form a "kit". check out this... http://www.efi101.com/forum/viewforum.php?...57cbefc7b198b5e Don't forget the price of a WB meter. Innovative LC-1 WBO2. Compact, digital/analog programmable. Comes with sensor and bung. Can't beat it for $199. I'd like to go either ITBs or build a custom manifold off weber bases with welded injector bungs and a custom fuel rail. I just don't trust injectors that are 35 years old. I'm sticking to my Megasquirt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) $2300 aint bad for all that if you want a semi-plug 'n play start from scratch system. I chose to build it myself and learn about the guts of it all. Either or... |
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| Mark Henry |
Feb 27 2007, 10:30 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Read everything here before you jump into PEFI, good info and easy to understand, no matter what system you end up with.
http://sdsefi.com/tech.html |
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| Jake Raby |
Feb 27 2007, 11:48 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Used and tested it once...
I was so unhappy with it that I refused to even complete the dyno session and mandated the customer go to SDS. The resolution of the system leaves much to be desired, the way it tunes is confusing and the instructions and wire harnass is a joke. After testing 6 different ECUs and systems I keep coming back to SDS, even systems that cost 1200+ bucks MORE money don't work as well and have more guesswork and difficulty with tuning. The more exotic the system, the more tuning effort it takes to tune.. I'll be adding Emerald, LINK and Autronic ECUs to this wall in the new dyno lab as permanent fixtures.. The twist of a multi position switch ends all the guesswork and puts everyone on the same ball field. There is no argument with back to back comparisons. (IMG:http://www.massivetype4.com/galleries/dyno/Dyno%201-29-07%20009.jpg) After putting 50K on my 912E with SDS and only tuning it once, my views are slightly impacted by direct experience- of course. BTW- Mark I'd like to have you on my radio Show this week, email me at productdevelopment@aircooledtechnology.com |
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| Joe Ricard |
Feb 27 2007, 12:13 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Point taken.
Hey Ya'll buy the rest of my extra 914 parts so I can get an SDS TWM EFI. oh and I need some FOX racing shocks too. |
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| Mark Henry |
Feb 27 2007, 01:15 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Feb 27 2007, 12:48 PM) BTW- Mark I'd like to have you on my radio Show this week, email me at productdevelopment@aircooledtechnology.com email sent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
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| ottox914 |
Feb 27 2007, 10:18 PM
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The glory that once was. Group: Members Posts: 1,302 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Mahtomedi, MN Member No.: 1,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest  |
QUOTE(Joe Ricard @ Nov 26 2006, 04:57 AM) Nice. I guess hoser power per dollar is tough to eat huh? that better be one sweet running engine. How the world turns... as good as your carbs likely are, the SDS is sweeter. Here's the thread: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=53733&st=0 Sell the carbs, keep the intakes, get or build some ITB's, run it all with SDS and never look back. Mark hooked me up with the SDS, and Jake with the ITB's. |
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| Mark Henry |
Feb 28 2007, 08:38 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I hate to harp on the SDS, I think it pisses some people off when I do, but it is the easiest system to use on the market. It may not have some of the bells and whistles of other systems, but on the older ACVW’s and Porsches it has everything you need and you don’t need a co-pilot, a dyno or an IT degree to program it. Most of issues (data logging, spreadsheets, etc.) people had with the system are history with the newest versions.
Every single person I’ve seen that doesn’t like this system has either never tried it or make a living programming the PC based systems. Carbs are not rocket science so why does a PEFI system have to be? |
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| toon1 |
Feb 28 2007, 09:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 29-October 05 From: tracy,ca Member No.: 5,022 |
QUOTE(yarin @ Feb 27 2007, 07:19 AM) QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Feb 27 2007, 10:11 AM) The red-line weber guy sometimes hangs out on the shoptalkforums on the FI forum. They use a Pantera ECU, just want you to know they don't build their own ECU. It is their TB's but the rest is a package they put together to form a "kit". check out this... http://www.efi101.com/forum/viewforum.php?...57cbefc7b198b5e Don't forget the price of a WB meter. Innovative LC-1 WBO2. Compact, digital/analog programmable. Comes with sensor and bung. Can't beat it for $199. I'd like to go either ITBs or build a custom manifold off weber bases with welded injector bungs and a custom fuel rail. I just don't trust injectors that are 35 years old. I'm sticking to my Megasquirt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) $2300 aint bad for all that if you want a semi-plug 'n play start from scratch system. I chose to build it myself and learn about the guts of it all. Either or... I am working on a setup right now to use different(new) injectors. I am going to upgrade the system to 43.5 psi for better atomization. I have the injectors and the mods. to the stock system are minimal.They are high imp. injectors so it will be easy with MS, which I am installing this w/e. There seem to be other options for injectors that would be almost a stock replacement that would give the possibility to run higher pressures. the difference in atomization between the stock injectors and a newer style, higher press. injector is amazing. It's like a patio mister compared to a garden hose. I will do a full write up on it when I'm done. Keith |
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