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> What's the minimium diameter tubing required for an engine cradle?
John
post Apr 3 2007, 11:49 PM
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Ok, so all said and done, that bender is in the $950 range once outfitted with the round tubing die.

Tubing Bender with Leverage multiplier.
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post Apr 4 2007, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(John @ Apr 3 2007, 09:49 PM) *

Ok, so all said and done, that bender is in the $950 range once outfitted with the round tubing die.

Tubing Bender with Leverage multiplier.



Yup, and to bend larger tubing, Covell used a Mittler Brothers hydraulic bender which is at least $1300 more.
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post Apr 4 2007, 12:47 AM
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If you can make an engine mount you can make a tubing bender.
Take a look here bender plans
I made the HD version - cost was about $250 including the ram. Then you need to get the correct die and you are ready to start bending.
BTW I am using 1.5" .120 wall for my engine cradle.
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post Apr 4 2007, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE(Mid_Engine_914 @ Apr 3 2007, 10:02 PM) *

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If in the course of your project you have the tranny seperated, can you post a picture of the VR6 from the flywheel end? I'd like to see the bolt pattern of the case.


Here are a few pics I took of the flywheel end of my 12V VR6 which is from a '97 Passat. If you need me to take some specific measurements between bolt holes, let me know and I'll try to take them tomorrow before I reattach the tranny.




Those are great - thnx.

So it looks like an Audi 016 or 01E, a VW 012, or a Boxster G86 will all bolt to a VR6?
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post Apr 4 2007, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(Gary @ Apr 4 2007, 01:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Mid_Engine_914 @ Apr 3 2007, 10:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Gary @ Apr 2 2007, 11:23 PM) *


If in the course of your project you have the tranny seperated, can you post a picture of the VR6 from the flywheel end? I'd like to see the bolt pattern of the case.


Here are a few pics I took of the flywheel end of my 12V VR6 which is from a '97 Passat. If you need me to take some specific measurements between bolt holes, let me know and I'll try to take them tomorrow before I reattach the tranny.




Those are great - thnx.

So it looks like an Audi 016 or 01E, a VW 012, or a Boxster G86 will all bolt to a VR6?


I'm curious. Has anyone actually done this mating of all these transaxles and knows for sure? The VR6 is a transverse mounted motor, unlike the longitudinal mounting of the other trans/motor combinations listed. The VR6 looks nothing like the 012, 01E, or 016 bellhousing bolt patterns (at least in the pictures), so an adapter plate would be required (I speculate). Additionally, the 016 input shaft protrudes past the bellhousing mounting surface, whereas the 012 and 01E input shaft is recessed so it's hard to imagine they all somehow neatly interchange.

If one wishes to go the route of a late model drivetrain, then I would suggest an Audi or VW 4 cyl. 1.8T or a 2.7 (either na or turbo) both WITH an 012 5 speed transaxle. Someone on the list mentioned that the CV bolt pattern (though it's a 911, I think) will bolt right up to the 012 drive flanges.

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post Apr 4 2007, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Porcharu @ Apr 3 2007, 11:47 PM) *

If you can make an engine mount you can make a tubing bender.
Take a look here bender plans
I made the HD version - cost was about $250 including the ram. Then you need to get the correct die and you are ready to start bending.
BTW I am using 1.5" .120 wall for my engine cradle.


Steve,

I was thinking of making one of those too. How much are the dies?

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