 Heater for Water cooled 914s, As promised, here are the pics |
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| fiid |
 Apr 12 2007, 08:29 PM
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| Bigbohr |
Apr 12 2007, 10:02 PM
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Superlurker Group: Members Posts: 224 Joined: 19-September 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 1,176 |
QUOTE(marks914 @ Apr 6 2007, 05:11 PM)  My water pump has a provision for a heater suction side and I come off of the engine in the stock location on the manifold. I also have a small return line from the high side to the low side to keep some coolant flowing even when the t stat and heater control valve are closed. What waterpump are you using? If it's a Renegade pump do they always come with heater suction inlet? Thanks |
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| marks914 |
Apr 14 2007, 06:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 9-October 04 From: the motor city Member No.: 2,912 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Bigbohr @ Apr 12 2007, 08:02 PM) QUOTE(marks914 @ Apr 6 2007, 05:11 PM) My water pump has a provision for a heater suction side and I come off of the engine in the stock location on the manifold. I also have a small return line from the high side to the low side to keep some coolant flowing even when the t stat and heater control valve are closed. What waterpump are you using? If it's a Renegade pump do they always come with heater suction inlet? Thanks I am using a Desert Hybrids pump. it does have the water return on the pump. I do not know if Renegade has this provision. You can always come off of the intake manifold stock water outlet, to the heater core and then plumb it back to the suction side hose somewhere. Mark |
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| marks914 |
Apr 17 2007, 10:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 9-October 04 From: the motor city Member No.: 2,912 Region Association: None |
Finally got the sway bar and the tank in, fired it up to test the heater. Seems to work Ok. The air is not hot by any means, but pretty warm. Its been and is going to be in the 30s-40s the rest of the week so I will drive the car as much as I can to see how the heater works out. Should be fine. Replacing my fresh air hoses made a world of difference in the force of the air coming through the vents. I will get some numbers up by the weekend.
Mark |
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| MecGen |
Apr 17 2007, 06:32 PM
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8 Easy Steps Group: Members Posts: 848 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Laval, Canada Member No.: 3,421 |
Hey Great Work !
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) I am pretty sure once you drive it you will see a big difference in the heat output. The coolant has a long way to travel, extra RPM might be needed. Whenever I do my conversion, I had thought of a system similar to yours would be perfect. Keep us informed Later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| soloracer |
Jul 23 2007, 11:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 793 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Calgary Member No.: 538 |
Any updates on this set up?
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| 914nerd |
Jul 24 2007, 04:46 PM
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Who you callin' a "Member"? Group: Members Posts: 416 Joined: 18-July 06 From: Los Alamos, NM Member No.: 6,461 |
QUOTE(Andyrew @ Apr 6 2007, 01:10 PM) Thats what I was going to do!! Cool! cept mine was to be an oil cooler... I'm going to be doing something like this very soon Oil cooler up front Lever actuation to change where the air is going. Vent it out when it is warm outside and vent the heat into the cabin when it is cold (also, possibly add a fan within the ducting to get a little more flow when needed) We'll see how it turns out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) |
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| pjhaun |
Jul 25 2007, 09:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 370 Joined: 21-August 03 Member No.: 1,055 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(marks914 @ Apr 6 2007, 11:41 AM) Here are the pics of the prototype. If there is any interest, this may be one of my next produts. It hets pretty cold here in Michigan, its 26F right now and I do need a heater. I had a heater under my dash and I got tired of looking at it so I came up with this. It uses the stuck heat/fan controls on the dash. The fan works in the usual way and the red heat director lever actuates the water control valve to control the temp of the heat exchanger. Mark Mark, What does the inside look like? How did you put the heater core in that little box? Thank You!!!! Phillip J. Haun Oak Harbor, WA. |
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| marks914 |
Jul 25 2007, 09:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 9-October 04 From: the motor city Member No.: 2,912 Region Association: None |
The heaters are coming, probably this fall, mid September. I have been slammed at work, plus the quad gauges/tachs and I am going on vacation in a couple of weeks then I have my brother's wedding next month, then I can get going on them.
The prototype works well, I have found a denser core that looks like it will work. I am also trying to keep the price below $200 which looks like it may happen, maybe $225 at the most, including everything except the hoses/clamps. Phillip, I don't have a pic of the inside, its just a heater core in there with a closeout on the bottom and some of the upper rain flap trimmed from the bottom. The box is bigger than you think. Mark |
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| mike_the_man |
Oct 24 2007, 12:51 PM
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I like stuff! Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Member No.: 809 |
Any updates on this? I'm planning to start collecting all the V8 parts I'll need, and something like this is definitely on my list! It looks awesome.
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| joefri187 |
Nov 14 2007, 04:05 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 1-November 05 From: Concord, CA Member No.: 5,047 Region Association: Northern California |
Yes, Updates please!!!! Winter is here!!!
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| budman5201 |
Nov 17 2007, 12:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 1-April 07 From: tempe, az Member No.: 7,635 |
Has anyone ever thought of using a Water to Air intercooler that uses the stock heater core lines off the engine and then uses the stock 914 blower motors and heater flappers to keep the 914 stock heater intact? Sounds to me like that is the easiest and most stock way of doing 914 heat and in the summer you can keep them running through the intercoolers that are used the opposite way and have a switch to kick the blower motors on too!
QUOTE(joefri187 @ Nov 14 2007, 03:05 PM) Yes, Updates please!!!! Winter is here!!! |
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| pdlightning |
Nov 5 2011, 07:19 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 4-February 11 From: Santa Clarita Member No.: 12,660 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(bondo @ Apr 12 2007, 05:00 PM) A/C and heater and I will buy up also. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) |
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| partwerks |
Nov 5 2011, 08:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,593 Joined: 7-September 06 From: Grand Island, NE Member No.: 6,787 |
Seems like in the past I had seen a 914 member that had made one of these setups?
Does the blower suck in cold air that blows over the oil cooler and vented into the cab? Not sure if it is doable, but since I had the Renegade under dash unit, I was wondering if I could run some duct work from the under dash unit up to the defroster vents? |
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| pdlightning |
Nov 5 2011, 10:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 4-February 11 From: Santa Clarita Member No.: 12,660 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(partwerks @ Nov 5 2011, 07:03 PM) Seems like in the past I had seen a 914 member that had made one of these setups? Does the blower suck in cold air that blows over the oil cooler and vented into the cab? Not sure if it is doable, but since I had the Renegade under dash unit, I was wondering if I could run some duct work from the under dash unit up to the defroster vents? I was told by Steve at Renegade on Thursday that you could . |
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| partwerks |
Nov 5 2011, 10:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,593 Joined: 7-September 06 From: Grand Island, NE Member No.: 6,787 |
I'll have to crawl around under there and take a closer look, since it now sounds like it is a possibility.
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| type47fan |
Nov 6 2011, 04:32 PM
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It Looks Better In Person. . . Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 17-September 03 From: Carlsbad, CA Member No.: 1,170 Region Association: Southern California 
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>four year old thread and Mark S. hasn't even been logged on this year since late July. Anybody heard from him?
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| partwerks |
Nov 6 2011, 05:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,593 Joined: 7-September 06 From: Grand Island, NE Member No.: 6,787 |
Guess mine is already set up to divert the air from the under dash to the vents with switching the lever where it forks into the "Y"
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| speed metal army |
Nov 6 2011, 06:16 PM
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Waiting for the rain to stop... Group: Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 4-September 10 From: PNW Member No.: 12,137 Region Association: Canada |
Couldnt a guy make some Heat exchangers for the V8 exhaust? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| Mike Bellis |
Nov 6 2011, 06:31 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(speed metal army @ Nov 6 2011, 05:16 PM) Couldnt a guy make some Heat exchangers for the V8 exhaust? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Maybe with marine exhaust manifolds, but it's water heat. If you had good sheetmetal skills, a hot air exchanger could be made. |
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