Who can do the punching of door VIN stickers?, I cannot find a dealer to do it. Options

[burton73]

Stoddards Porsche said they can not get it for me, George did not tell me that the factory has a different looking VIN sticker that they can make up for me. If it does not look like it did in 1970, it is not right for me. I can just put Georges Sticker on with no holes. There should be more people worrying where there engine cases came from on there sixes that are not original.

Bob Burton

[ptravnic]

There should be more people worrying where there engine cases came from on there sixes that are not original.

Last night I had a dream that I had a six... I woke up and the sheets were all wet. Can anyone interpret this dream?

[r_towle]

I would offer up this suggestion.

Get in touch with PCNA, or call the PCA.

I bet that you could provide Porsche with a valid reproduction of the sticker (from AA) and get them to use your blank sticker to make a new sticker.
Then get a dealer to affix it.

It should be legal, documented, and just take a bit of time tracking down the VIN guy in germany who does this.

Rich

[burton73]

Rich,

That is a great idea. You would think the factory would want to take care of this and let people like myself with a 914-6 get these done. There where very happy to take my $105. Or whatever amount it was to send me the certificate on my 914-6 and still they cannot tell me the date when my car was made. Porsche seems to be an -if you got the money we can do company--. The problem with me is I know no one at PCNA, or the PCA. You would think George would have these connections. Maybe the idea it to get it out there till some one comes up with one.

Bob

[bperry]

It's pretty likely a federal crime for ANYONE other than Porsche itself to do what you're asking. Not George, not me, not an authorized dealer. For sure it's a state crime here in CA. The Cap'n

On par w/ripping the label off a mattress...

Hardly. This one's for real, and the penalties are too. Having gone through 2 years of CHP random "spot checks" of my shop and parking lot because I was remotely associated with a VW pan and title that passed through my hands, I can assure you they take VIN labels VERY seriously, something they made exceedingly clear to me. A few months back I inquired about simply R&Ring the decal for a restoration, and the answer is NO, you can't even do that on your own car, much less anyone else's.

The Cap'n

A quick check of the 2007 California Vehicle code seems to differ on this.
Here is a link to the specific section in the code related to this:
Altering or Changing Vehicle Numbers
Clearly the intent of the law is to prohibit "Alteration" or removal
and there seems to be a clear exception for restoration.

I would follow up with the DMV.

--- bill

[burton73]

Bill,

State of California gave me the pink with the VIN on the window (proof #1). The front compartment was not able to open because the handle was broken so we had to take it back to my place to remove the bumper and open the trunk, then back to the DMV for the second proof of VIN numbers as there was no door sticker. (Proff#2) The stamped number at the top of the right inner fender. The PO sent me the headlight bucket VIN proof #3 later when he was cleaning out his garage. So the factory has 4 sets of VIN numbers. One very easy to sand off when a dummy is repainting a different color.

CA. DMV only needs 2 sets of VIN numbers to change title.

Bob

[Mikey914]

I understand the desire to restore to original as possible. There is another issue that has not been addressed. I would notify any future purchaser of the vehicle (in writing probably on bill of sale next to the "as is clause") the the "factory sticker" is a reproduction. This is because, as we all know a complete original car is worth more than one without placards intact. This becomes an issue of fraud. There was a bodyshop in Portland that got busted for "reproducing" serial numbers on old Corvette body parts, and then passing them off as all original. Because of the value of the cars it was serious.

Just my .02, but the factory option is probably the safest bet.

[burton73]

In the case of numbers matching Corvette or a 914-6 with correct Engine number and Trans. numbers that came with the car that may be the case, but the door sticker in restoration is a different point. If someone changed Engine case numbers they would be in very big trouble if caught because it is a fraud.

This is just a small point to me, as I will never sell this car but full discloser on a car is an inserting thing. The PO for sure knew there was a broken Clutch tube. Should people need to fill out discloser forms on there cars when they sell them.

I am honest and never have anything to hide, I would sine one. We have to sine them when we sell homes in California.

Bob

[McMark]

I will be getting new style factory VIN stickers for my 6 project. I can understand the originality urge, but I know of cars that have been held in limbo for questionable VINs (just like what you're proposing), and I wouldn't want my pristine restoration at an impound lot for any length of time. That being said, if you do the reproduction well enough, who would EVER know? Does the AA stickers have the tamper-proof circles cut into it? Or is it solid?

[burton73]

The first thing I did was pay my full sales tax, get a reg. sticker and new license plates for the car and have the DMV inspect the car. This had to be done before I would hand over the CK to the PO.

I have not seen AA stickers or the factory new stickers. This started out looking for a harmless way to punch the numbers in the reproduction VIN sticker.

I just looked at my 86 Carrera sticker shown in first photo. There are no tamper-proof circles there. I do remember those on my 72 VW Beatle. Is my Carrera VIN sticker a fake? LOL

Bob

[McMark]

This is what the newest replacements look like, but I've also seen the 911 sticker you show in the first post that was punched with 914 VIN info. So either they've all switched over to the new style, or it depends on which dealer you order from.

I like the CNC option. Getting the tamper-proof material to make stickers on would be nice as well.

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[burton73]

This one was is on a car for sale. It has the tamper-proof circles. Are 914-6 stickers all silver or are some black?

Bob

[McMark]

There are at least 4 styles of VIN sticker. Early/Late & Dark/Light depending on car color.

[GWN7]

Actually 6 different ones:

Black, Safety compliance, VIN, production date 1970-72,
Silver, Safety compliance, VIN, production date 1970-72
Black, Safety compliance, VIN, production date, vehicle weights 1973-75
Silver, Safety compliance, VIN, production date, vehicle weights 1973-75
Black, Safety compliance, VIN, production date, vehicle weights 1976
Silver, Safety compliance, VIN, production date, vehicle weights 1976

Info thanks to Jeff Bowlsby

[Johny Blackstain]

Does anyone know the part number or how much George charges for the sticker? Could not find it on the AA website. Thanks.


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[Tobra]

This iss the silliest thing to be concerned about. IF you do even a passably decent job, one you would be happy with since you are going to the trouble; there is no way in hell anyone would ever say anything to you other than, "Nice Car".

They are looking for numbers that are different, not the same.

If, on the unlikely possibility someone in a position to do the looking would even know where all the VIN, body and engine numbers are stamped(I had to show the person doing the registration inspection on my bug the spot under the back seat) It is probably the only 914 door jamb sticker they will ever see. Unless it looks crappy, which you would be unlikely to stick on the car, no one would EVER say a word about it.

[smg914]

1970-71 Door Jamb Sticker - AA part number: BAA 006 701 700

[Johny Blackstain]

1970-71 Door Jamb Sticker - AA part number: BAA 006 701 700

Thanks for the info however I plugged that number into the search engine @ AA & got nothing. Anyone know the price?


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[smg914]

I found it on AA's data base as part number BAAA 006 701 700 for $11.00

[Johny Blackstain]

I found it on AA's data base as part number BAAA 006 701 700 for $11.00

Thanks, that B made a difference. You're right, $11.00 & just needs to be punched or something.


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