Who can do the punching of door VIN stickers?, I cannot find a dealer to do it. Options

[GeorgeRud]

The scary part is that the imprinters were not all that unusual back when. Both Royal and Wesley made these imprinters for safeguarding checks so they could not be easily altered.

I cannot see how replicating the original sticker with the original equipment would cause an owner any difficulty. Who could say the sticker was not original (other than this forum's members or a PCA concour judge? I don't think it would raise any eyebrows if it matched the other plates and documentation on the car.

We need to find a member that has an old, old accountant or bookkeeper that may have kept one of the old imprinters.

If you Google check imprinters, you'll find different type styles that were used. I believe the Porsche one is the Royal or Wesley style.

[rick 918-S]

http://www.officemuseum.com/check_protectors.htm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

[burton73]

I did see that after George Rud pointed it out, Not bad but the 7 and 3 are wrong and the there is nothing for the / for the date. The CNC should dead nuts on. Not that I am trying to fool anyone but if you had one that was dead nuts on? I have to use up a big favor or take it to my factory in China and have them do it. Looks like I will need a few stickers to get it balls on right. I hope George has black ones.

Bob

[TedK]

Slightly off topic, but has anyone removed the front trunk and a-pilar plates? Can they be re-installed with (size?) rivets? What about those mini-rivets on the Karmann plate on the left door hinge post? I will be doing a full re-paint and would love to have those off the car for painting.

Ted K

[VaccaRabite]

Slightly off topic, but has anyone removed the front trunk and a-pilar plates? Can they be re-installed with (size?) rivets? What about those mini-rivets on the Karmann plate on the left door hinge post? I will be doing a full re-paint and would love to have those off the car for painting.

Ted K

The a pillar plate on my car is just 2 black pop rivets. The front trunk plate is not a plate, it is a stamping on the front driver side fender (which I was careful not to fill in when I was repainting the car.)

I don't know what size rivets the Kharman plate is, they are tiny.

Zach

[RON S.]

In the FWIT dept.


http://martiauto.com/index.html

These guys have been re-manufacturing Ford Data plates for cars and trucks for restored vehicles for YEARS.

It is legal.They use the same stamping materials and fonts as the OEM.

Ron

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

Stoddards Porsche said they can not get it for me, George did not tell me that the factory has a different looking VIN sticker that they can make up for me. If it does not look like it did in 1970, it is not right for me. I can just put Georges Sticker on with no holes. There should be more people worrying where there engine cases came from on there sixes that are not original.

Bob Burton

The factory provided repro sticker is one from a new 911 punched with the 914 number. It is TOTALLY incorrect looking for any restoration.

[IronHillRestorations]

Regarding the "lawlessness" of duplicating the doorjamb VIN sticker; as long as you can prove provenance of the vehicle (title history, your clear ownership, etc), and your intent for purchasing and using a replacement VIN sticker (reciepts for painting, restoration parts, etc), you WILL NOT have a problem.

Now if you are planning to take the serial numbers off a trashed "6" to that clean '71 into a "real" 914-6, THAT is another matter all together.

Those of us who do not live in the police state of California would not find the correct replacement of a mere VIN sticker for accurate restoration purposes a problem.

I challenge anyone anywhere to show legal cause of action regarding this exact matter.

[TedK]

Thanks Zach, I was referring to the rivited plate on the headlight bucket, not the fender stamping. Its frustrating. I want to have the chassis/body dipped, but I'm sure that process would remove the black on the Karmann plate and dissolve all labels. What to do, what to do?

Ted K

[davep]

Just remove the riveted data plates.

[TedK]

Yes, that would work for the trunk plate and the A-pilar VIN, but that Karmann plate has such small rivets. I wonder if they are just aluminum nails???? If so, it could be R & R'd. I have an info source, I'll check and post the answer. The only remaining problems for a full dipping are the stickers and they would be destroyed by the process.

[burton73]

TedK,

Remove the riveted Karmann data plates and we will find new ones for you as I will have repro plates soon and I need to get a bag of the small rivets. Do not damage your plate or you will need a new one and will have to engrave or stamp the numbers in it. As far as the riveted plate on the headlight bucket I need the correct rivets for my car so we can trade if you get some.

Bob Burton

[mercdev]

FWIW pt.2: http://www.boss302.com/legal.htm