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> Man am I tired, Cooking the control arms
DNHunt
post Dec 9 2003, 05:59 AM
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Had to get up real early so I could sneak the control arms into the oven and not have the family complain about the smell. I don't think my strategy is going to work. The new Por 15 is cooking off some solventor something. Smells pretty bad. I've got the HVAC on to try to get rid of it.

Bearings are going in real easy though.

I suppose the wife going to have a hard time understanding I had to doit so the wheel bearings would go in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

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post Dec 9 2003, 07:14 AM
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My Scott Kline should jump in with his sig from PP...

'It's easier to get forgiveness, than it is to get permission.'

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post Dec 9 2003, 07:43 AM
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Dave,

What temp are you taking those to?

Maybe you could appease the wife by baking a pan of cinammon rolls or something for breakfast, with a side of swing arm! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Dec 9 2003, 09:26 AM
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Pulled it off. Aired the house out before the wife got up. She never said a thing.

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post Dec 9 2003, 09:33 AM
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I tried doing that, I baked some parts in the oven and she went balistic. It stunk up the whole house. She was pissed. But she forgave me. After all, it is my house.
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post Dec 9 2003, 09:41 AM
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Glad I didn't have to go there. I made the comment that I had been working on the car now for almost 2 months. She said "It seems like 2 years". Guess I'm gonna have pay some more attention to the little lady.

I asked if she could give me a hand tomorrow afternoon jacking the rear suspension up to the car. She actually said yes. I'll get some work done and spend some time with the wife (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)

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post Dec 9 2003, 11:07 AM
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I bought a full size spare oven just for things like this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

it was 20 bucks or so, I keep it on the side of the house near my storage shed...it has a 15" cord to reach into the garage,,,,,,,,



Never used the oven inside the house for parts, I did however use our dishwasher once for a few small pieces.....bad timing, wife saw the parts and went ballistic for about 5 minutes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)
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post Dec 9 2003, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Dec 9 2003, 09:07 AM)
it has a 15" cord to reach into the garage,,,,,,,,

Is that length or girth?

(I know you just missed the shift key when you typed that but it made me think of Spinal Tap so I got a good laugh).
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post Dec 9 2003, 01:07 PM
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She didn't mind the cylinder heads in the oven, but she went off a bit about the carburettors in the dishwasher.
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post Dec 9 2003, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(DNHunt @ Dec 9 2003, 03:59 AM)
I had to doit so the wheel bearings would go in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

why didn't you just put the bearings in the freezer? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

a lot less smell, same results (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Dec 9 2003, 02:36 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I use dry ice tho (frozen CO2).
Bearings drop in.
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post Dec 9 2003, 03:23 PM
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I did freeze the bearings. One dropped in the other needed a light tap.

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post Dec 9 2003, 03:28 PM
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When you heat a metal object it typically expands. When you heat a pipe, what happens to the inner diameter? Does it expand or contract? Or does the reaction depend on the wall thickness? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Does baking the swing arm in Dave's wife's oven help or not? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Dec 9 2003, 03:33 PM
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It helps!


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post Dec 9 2003, 06:58 PM
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Dave,
I'm sure that it is easier to remove the trailing arms with the motor out, but did you do yours with it in? How much harder would it be to do with the motor in? Just wondering if this is a must do before my motor gets shoved in.

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post Dec 10 2003, 06:39 AM
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I did it with the engine out. Unbolted the brake and E brake. I undid the 3 bolts that are used for alignment (outboard and forward of the control arm), then the bolt at the suspension ear on the framerail. Undid the top of the shock at the shock tower and dropped the whole suspension with a jack. Had it out in 10 minutes (I know I work slow).

If the engine was in you wold have remove exhaust then split the CV joint. One advantage, if you are doing bearings, you could loosen the castle nut from the stub shaft with car in gear on the ground with E brake on. The castle nut is a real bitch on the workbench (several hours and I was very thankful for a large vice).

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post Dec 10 2003, 12:47 PM
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You dont have to remove the exhaust to get the axles out. Position the control arms correctly and they come out. The passenger side inboard CV will need to go towards the upper tranny/engine bolt.

The job is not real easy.. but it is less work/hassle than removing the exhaust.


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