Turn Signal Problems, Won't work with lights on Options

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Replace any bulbs recently? Putting a single-filament bulb into a socket for a dual-filament bulb will make Very Strange Things happen to your car. (Like: it keeps running after the key is off, but only when the turn signal switch is down!)

The front turn signals should have dual-filament bulbs in them.

--DD

This is where it all started. I noticed the driver's side tail light was out
so I replaced the bulb. The turn signals worked fine before that.

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Here is a picture of the black wire with the fuse that keeps blowing

[904svo]

Do these steps and let me know what happens.
1.
With Key off!
left turn signal on= front and rear marker lights on
right turn signal on= front and rear marker lights on
This is a quick check of the grounds for each light circuit

Nothing.

2.
turn signal switch in netural
turn on parking lights=front and rear lights on
this checks the power and wiring to each light

lights work


3.
Turn off parking lights
Turn on 4 way flasher
this check power and the flasher.

Blows fuse

doesnt work
4.
Turn off 4 way flasher.
Turn on key!
step on the brake pedal= rear brake lights should work
this check the fuse and brake switch

works

5.Check turn signals now, they should work
if both turn signal indicators lights light this is telling you
the bulb for the other side is burn out or is the wrong type
bulb installed or the flasher is bad.
Note. Turn signal inducator bulbs use the bulb for the other side for ground
to light it

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) nope

6.
Apply the hand brake= brake light should flash
checks the switch on EM brake and flasher

If any of these steps fail,

FIX IT first before doing the next step

Lets fix #1 first.

Remove fuse #5 (left side), fuse #6 (right side)

Remove the bulbs on the left and right sides
Check left side first
check the contact for a false ground, if ground is not there
replace the bulbs and replace fuse #5
turn on the left turn signal.
bulbs should work.
Repeat the above for the right side
fuse #6

Let me know what you find.

[904svo]

Here is a picture of the black wire with the fuse that keeps blowing

Remove that BLACK WIRE an see if your lights work, that wire is something
that was added trace it out and see where it goes.

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

i would suggest that since you just reconnected the assemblies that the problem lies in the connections at the assemblies, specifically that you have attached a brown ground wire to a hot lead!!!! Please look in the "Tech Tips 700" for the wiring hookups. I really think that this will solve your problem. The main thing to consider is that on the front assemblies one of the spades goes all of the way through the connector and the other two are riveted on. Please connect the brown ground lead to the connector that goes all of the way through the connector (31)

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[Snafu]

i would suggest that since you just reconnected the assemblies that the problem lies in the connections at the assemblies, specifically that you have attached a brown ground wire to a hot lead!!!! Please look in the "Tech Tips 700" for the wiring hookups. I really think that this will solve your problem. The main thing to consider is that on the front assemblies one of the spades goes all of the way through the connector and the other two are riveted on. Please connect the brown ground lead to the connector that goes all of the way through the connector (31)

checked...made sure the brown wire was on 31.

Remove that BLACK WIRE an see if your lights work, that wire is something
that was added trace it out and see where it goes.

removed the black wire. goes somewhere in the dash. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Got the emergency lights to work but still no turn signals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Will update later.

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

i would suggest that since you just reconnected the assemblies that the problem lies in the connections at the assemblies, specifically that you have attached a brown ground wire to a hot lead!!!! Please look in the "Tech Tips 700" for the wiring hookups. I really think that this will solve your problem. The main thing to consider is that on the front assemblies one of the spades goes all of the way through the connector and the other two are riveted on. Please connect the brown ground lead to the connector that goes all of the way through the connector (31)

checked...made sure the brown wire was on 31.

Remove that BLACK WIRE an see if your lights work, that wire is something
that was added trace it out and see where it goes.

removed the black wire. goes somewhere in the dash. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Got the emergency lights to work but still no turn signals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Will update later.

hopefully something has not melted!

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hopefully something has not melted!

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I hope not

[904svo]

i would suggest that since you just reconnected the assemblies that the problem lies in the connections at the assemblies, specifically that you have attached a brown ground wire to a hot lead!!!! Please look in the "Tech Tips 700" for the wiring hookups. I really think that this will solve your problem. The main thing to consider is that on the front assemblies one of the spades goes all of the way through the connector and the other two are riveted on. Please connect the brown ground lead to the connector that goes all of the way through the connector (31)

checked...made sure the brown wire was on 31.

Remove that BLACK WIRE an see if your lights work, that wire is something
that was added trace it out and see where it goes.

removed the black wire. goes somewhere in the dash. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Got the emergency lights to work but still no turn signals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Will update later.

Make sure fuses #8&9 are good now, don' forget to turn on key for the turn signals.

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OK guys... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Some success/progress.


Now I'm starting to think the problem may be in the column or the switch mechanism itself. When I have the key in the neutral position and engage the turn signal, I can here it "click" like it wants to work. After fiddling with it I've found that If I put the right amount (slightest) pressure to activate the left turn signal, I can get it to work. I can't do the same when trying to activate the right signal though.

Hummm.

I feel like I'm really close... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Thoughts?

[904svo]

OK guys... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Some success/progress.


Now I'm starting to think the problem may be in the column or the switch mechanism itself. When I have the key in the neutral position and engage the turn signal, I can here it "click" like it wants to work. After fiddling with it I've found that If I put the right amount (slightest) pressure to activate the left turn signal, I can get it to work. I can't do the same when trying to activate the right signal though.

Hummm.

I feel like I'm really close... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Thoughts?

Sounds like a bad switch.