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> Bontempi Body Kit, What does it look like?
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post Dec 12 2003, 01:30 AM
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Hi Randal,

Yep...the pacman (or is it PCAman) will help me devour you zoomies. I pulled off (2) TTOD's last year....and I was happy with the car...but between you, Andrew B, Rich W., and the rest of the gang...I know my competition isn't standing still... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)

So......how is the decision on the new motor?.....hmmm....You've been awfully quiet....is Brad busy yet on your car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Money pits....aren't they? I would piss away the money some other way, it might as well be on something that really makes life enjoyable...

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post Dec 12 2003, 01:32 AM
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Hey B,

So Chris is the next hot shoe for ALL914.....damn....more fast guys to go against....what class? (Hopefully not "Y", I've got enough comp) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 12 2003, 01:49 AM
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If it kills me.. I will dedicate more time to Rob Ways and Chris next year during the GGR AutoX season. Both of them have a year under their belts.. it is time to get serious.

I need to bring out 2-3 other guy's who are building BP cars right now.

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post Dec 12 2003, 01:55 AM
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Bi and BP in GGR should be fun to watch this year. It's amazing to watch Rob, Demick, and Andrew run their FI 2.0's......and challenge for TTOD....it's actually fun to listen to them not lift...just keep the momemtum all the way around...and hit the racer's line everytime....

B,

You gonna have time and a car to make it out this year? Or you staying up with the RR guys only?
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post Dec 12 2003, 02:17 AM
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I wont have a car. I will have to live vicariously thru the BP guys.

I may test some stuff on another car with the RR guy's.

If things go right.. I'll be back in GGR by the end of March.

I have a meeting tomorrow night with a shop owner on the pennisula. We may ink a deal where I work for him.


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post Dec 12 2003, 06:43 AM
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Brad or anyone know the cost of the lightweight rear flares or a number I can call Rich to find out?

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post Dec 12 2003, 09:24 AM
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Best to talk to Rich directly.

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post Dec 14 2003, 10:37 PM
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would it be fair to say that the installation of the HPH flares would be fairly easy?

in those pics, it looks as though they are on the car just by zeus(sp?) fasteners.

I realize it ain't easy getting the stock off, but IF the flares are on only by the fasteners,
you certainly wouldn't have to worry about having them 'molded' on.
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post Dec 14 2003, 10:38 PM
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They are fairly easy to install. We use Dzus fasteners but you could use a nice stainless screw.


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post Dec 14 2003, 10:50 PM
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Thanks Brad, I knew my *zeus* wasn't right.
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post Dec 15 2003, 06:08 PM
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What?

My car has been at HPH maybe 20 times in the last two years and I didn't even know Rich had the racing flares, let alone that he designed them and had the molds made.

I originally found out from Bill Pickering who had just installed them. Bill also told me that Steve in Sacramento had the same flares.

I remember now my Dad saying that asking questions was a sign of intelligence!

Glad this website is here – just think of the value it brings to us all.
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post Dec 16 2003, 01:07 AM
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If they are legal for your class... I like them MUCH better than the GT flares. You can whip them off the car and easily get to EVERYTHING suspension related (adjustments made easy)


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post Dec 16 2003, 08:13 AM
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anyone have an idea on cost F&R?
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post Dec 16 2003, 09:20 AM
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I'd have to check my log book...but I think the HPH flares were ~ $750 total for Front and Rear combined. And that was for the "street" versions. They are thicker than the race versions. I decided to go with the slightly thicker ones since with my luck I'd forget and sit on one and crack it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Even the street flares are very light. I can take a rear qtr panel and hold it straight out from my body with my arm extended and hold it up no problem...

I personally think they are a great buy if you don't want to go with GT style alternatives. Roger Sheridan's pieces are awesome (I have a Front Spoiler of his that I'll show a pic of when I get done with the car next week), but I just couldn't afford the whole kit.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Dec 16 2003, 10:53 AM
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that's a pretty smokin deal for those flares! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

One day, when I can make the power to be able to need flares (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)
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post Dec 16 2003, 04:15 PM
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And don't forget what can be a major time consumer and/or money eater and that’s installing the flares. From what I've heard the Bontempi body panels are pretty straight forward and come out looking like they were meant for the car.

Depending upon which kit you get "Bolt On" flares have to match the bottom valance, front bumpers/valances and all the same at the rear of the car. This can be a challenging job, unless you’ve a born (or educated) fabricator.
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post Dec 17 2003, 02:34 AM
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QUOTE(nine14cats @ Dec 16 2003, 07:20 AM)
I'd have to check my log book...but I think the HPH flares were ~ $750 total for Front and Rear combined. And that was for the "street" versions.

I personally think they are a great buy if you don't want to go with GT style alternatives. Roger Sheridan's pieces are awesome (I have a Front Spoiler of his that I'll show a pic of when I get done with the car next week), but I just couldn't afford the whole kit....

Bill P.

I've always been under the impression that the HPH flares were $800 for the back....only.

which I thought was really high, considering most of the f/g flare sets are less than that.

But, if it's $800 for the whole set.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif)


I also like the Sheridan kit, I wouldn't mind having them on my street car, but Roger didn't
seem to think that would be the best idea. Scott Yeaman echoed the same thing.
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post Dec 17 2003, 06:25 AM
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It is expense when you have about $100 in material in a set of rear flairs.
I know, I know, labor and profit bumps it up to +/- $400.

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post Dec 17 2003, 10:46 AM
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Here's the short skinny on the Bontempi flares:

He has both street weight and race weight flairs. Yes, the race weight are very light. If he doesn't have them right now, don't worry he owns rhe molds and can have a set pulled. So give him a call if you really want them. Just tell him what weight you want and if you want just the rears or a full set of 4. His phone number is 650 364-6234.

The set is about $800-900, something like that but that is 4 flares of good quality. noth that cheap AIR C***P

It's best to check with Rich on the price though (price may have changed)...who knows maybe he's got a Xmas special going.
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