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| rhodyguy |
 Jul 5 2007, 08:06 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out.  Group: Members Posts: 22,252 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch  |
nice write up jim. how i dried my tank after draining the water...on the bench top with a elec space heater pointed at the fill/sender holes. warmed the whole surface of the tank in about 30 minutes. bone dry in an hour. this worked well for a bit of warmth to the tank prior to ext painting.
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| rjames |
Jul 5 2007, 09:24 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 4,462 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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A hair dryer in the filler hole worked for me. About 30 min and the tank was dry.
Use new washers and it shouldn't leak when you fill it up again. |
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| BahnBrenner914 |
Jul 9 2007, 07:41 PM
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The girl is gone and all I have now is a beat-up teener Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 22-May 04 From: Gig Harbor and University Place, WA :: School in Angola, IN :: girlfriend in Sarasota, FL Member No.: 2,094 Region Association: None |
Well I just finished the last of my acid with the tank completely full and got all the rust out. I put it in the sun with the shopvac on blow and the tank upside down on some sawhorses and dried it out in less than a half hour, but it instantly flash-rusted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
So is that normal? (asking the non-sealer guys, considering the rest of you are crazy about cleaning and sealing it with the kit). |
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| John |
Jul 9 2007, 09:25 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
I would follow up the acid treatment with a Phosphoric Acid treatment.
This will leave a coating of Iron Phosphate on the inside exposed metal surfaces and will help to reduce the risk of flash rust. I am a proponent of coating the inside of the tank, so after phosphatizing the tank, I would coat it. |
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| Gint |
Jul 9 2007, 09:29 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,108 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
QUOTE(BahnBrenner914 @ Jul 9 2007, 06:41 PM)  So is that normal? (asking the non-sealer guys, considering the rest of you are crazy about cleaning and sealing it with the kit). In Florida it is... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Your shop vac is just blowing wet air. Colorado is drier than a popcorn fart. Once again, I pick mine up from the rad shop, paint the exterior and toss it in the car and fill it with gas and go. |
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| BahnBrenner914 |
Jul 9 2007, 10:31 PM
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The girl is gone and all I have now is a beat-up teener Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 22-May 04 From: Gig Harbor and University Place, WA :: School in Angola, IN :: girlfriend in Sarasota, FL Member No.: 2,094 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(John @ Jul 9 2007, 08:25 PM) I would follow up the acid treatment with a Phosphoric Acid treatment. This will leave a coating of Iron Phosphate on the inside exposed metal surfaces and will help to reduce the risk of flash rust. I am a proponent of coating the inside of the tank, so after phosphatizing the tank, I would coat it. Doesnt the coating kit come with phosphoric acid as the cleaner? I'm starting to lean towards coating the tank considering it isnt exactly driven around all the time. |
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| BahnBrenner914 |
Jul 10 2007, 08:17 PM
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The girl is gone and all I have now is a beat-up teener Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 22-May 04 From: Gig Harbor and University Place, WA :: School in Angola, IN :: girlfriend in Sarasota, FL Member No.: 2,094 Region Association: None |
I went and got a new strainer sock for the tank...
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| BahnBrenner914 |
Jul 15 2007, 11:26 PM
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The girl is gone and all I have now is a beat-up teener Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 22-May 04 From: Gig Harbor and University Place, WA :: School in Angola, IN :: girlfriend in Sarasota, FL Member No.: 2,094 Region Association: None |
So the tank is all cleaned out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) and I installed new hose under the tank:
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| BahnBrenner914 |
Jul 15 2007, 11:28 PM
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The girl is gone and all I have now is a beat-up teener Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 22-May 04 From: Gig Harbor and University Place, WA :: School in Angola, IN :: girlfriend in Sarasota, FL Member No.: 2,094 Region Association: None |
Then installed tank, fuel gauge, expansion chamber...
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| McMark |
Jul 15 2007, 11:53 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,180 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
You may have the hoses get kinked after the first drive. You'll notice when the car dies. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
If that happens, safely raise the front of the car, and remove the lower cover, then pull the hoses out of the access hole and carefully reinsert them making sure they don't kink. Good luck! I think you're close! |
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| BahnBrenner914 |
Jul 16 2007, 02:00 AM
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The girl is gone and all I have now is a beat-up teener Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 22-May 04 From: Gig Harbor and University Place, WA :: School in Angola, IN :: girlfriend in Sarasota, FL Member No.: 2,094 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 15 2007, 10:53 PM) You may have the hoses get kinked after the first drive. You'll notice when the car dies. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) If that happens, safely raise the front of the car, and remove the lower cover, then pull the hoses out of the access hole and carefully reinsert them making sure they don't kink. Good luck! I think you're close! I made sure all that extra hose was looped, not kinked, so hopefully we dont have that problem. |
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| boxstr |
Jul 16 2007, 09:59 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I would hold off on filling the tank to the top. Fill part way then start the car and drive for a short distance then, If everything is tight and no leaks, fill the tank.
One thing I like to do when the tank is out, is move the pump and fuel filter to the side of the front trunk area, on th eearly 914s even on a 75-76 914. That way if you have to change the filter. You do not have to jack the car up. Trust that the jack stands will hold and slide under the car, loosen the hose clamps, gas dripping down, remove the old filter and gas dripping down, install the new filter and tighten the clamps. You can mount everything in a secure and safe place. CCLIN914NATION |
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| Bogaat |
Jul 16 2007, 10:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Charleston, SC Member No.: 7,436 |
QUOTE(boxstr @ Jul 16 2007, 11:59 AM) I would hold off on filling the tank to the top. Fill part way then start the car and drive for a short distance then, If everything is tight and no leaks, fill the tank. One thing I like to do when the tank is out, is move the pump and fuel filter to the side of the front trunk area, on th early 914s even on a 75-76 914. That way if you have to change the filter. You do not have to jack the car up. Trust that the jack stands will hold and slide under the car, loosen the hose clamps, gas dripping down, remove the old filter and gas dripping down, install the new filter and tighten the clamps. You can mount everything in a secure and safe place. CCLIN914NATION So is the best place to mount the pump/filter under the tank in the cavity? Mine is currently underneath the car behind the "skid" plate rather than in the confines of the gas tank body cavity. It had previously been relocated. It seems it would be easier to get to from underneath when replacing? |
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| boxstr |
Jul 16 2007, 10:56 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The early 914s 70-74 had the pump and filter mounted at the midsection passenger side, near the heater tubes. Good place to casue vapor lock and heated fule problems.
The 75-76 pumps and filter were mounted as you see in teh previous pics, under the tank and the pump secured to a small access cover that you pull out, through, and into the front trunk area. This is the better of the factory locations, IMHO. But, if you have the tank completely out, I prefer to move the pump and filter into the side wall area in the front trunk. I will try and post a pic. CCLIN914NATION |
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| BahnBrenner914 |
Jul 16 2007, 01:25 PM
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The girl is gone and all I have now is a beat-up teener Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 22-May 04 From: Gig Harbor and University Place, WA :: School in Angola, IN :: girlfriend in Sarasota, FL Member No.: 2,094 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(boxstr @ Jul 16 2007, 08:59 AM) I would hold off on filling the tank to the top. Fill part way then start the car and drive for a short distance then, If everything is tight and no leaks, fill the tank. Definately. I have the gear stack out right now, so I'm not putting anything in there yet. I'll probably put a gallon or two in of regular (see my poll/thread about gas grades) and see how that runs and adjust accordingly. |
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| Brian Mifsud |
Oct 10 2007, 02:59 PM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
If you are concerned about "Muriatic" (Hydrochloric) Acid,... just go down to the supermarket and buy a couple gallons of white vinegar. It will work more slowly, but the acid WILL still dissolve the rust.
Nuts and Bolts, shake it repeatly. NEUTRALIZE the acid with BAKING SODA!. Rinsing with water will not neutralize the acid and it is heavier than gasoline, so will stay in the bottom of your tank, eating steel. |
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| Cevan |
Oct 10 2007, 03:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 11-December 06 From: Western Massachusetts Member No.: 7,351 |
QUOTE(Blood red 914-6gt @ Jul 3 2007, 01:12 AM) "Are you out of it boys? Everything is ball bearings these days." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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