 Engine Drop Proceedure, Found it and Dropped it! Thanks Guys - PIX ADDED |
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| kconway |
 Jul 14 2007, 09:06 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Monrovia, CA Member No.: 3,231 Region Association: Southern California  |
I'm going to attempt to drop the drivetrain for the first time. I've seen it written up before and would have thought it be in the classics forum. Anyone got a link...to retarded to use the seach properly, hopefully dropping the engine is easier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)
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| DanT |
Jul 14 2007, 09:24 AM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(kconway @ Jul 14 2007, 08:06 AM)  I'm going to attempt to drop the drivetrain for the first time. I've seen it written up before and would have thought it be in the classics forum. Anyone got a link...to retarded to use the seach properly, hopefully dropping the engine is easier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) Kev Tech section on the "bird" here you go http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/9...engine_drop.htm not all that difficult, just need to make sure you get everything disconnected including the tranny ground strap. Make sure you get the back end up high enough and keep the nose of the car down. good luck. |
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| SLITS |
Jul 14 2007, 09:42 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
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Remove engine lid Disconnect battery + lead Disconnect fuel supply line from pass fuel rail and return lines from fuel pressure regulator Remove 12 pin engine harness connector from relay board Remove 3 prong alternator connector from relay board Disconnect throttle cable at throttle valve, push cable back thru hole in forward engine tin If you have a temp guage, disconnect lead to sender at connector from main harness on pass side From bottom: Block front wheels Jack ass end of car up as high as you can and place jackstands at donuts on underbody ... lower car so it is supported by jackstands Remove rear wheels Disconnect speedo and clutch cables ... feed them back thru hole in engine bar if so routed. Remove muffler Disconnect wires from starter .... pull + battery lead back thru rear engine tin Disconnect tranny ground cable at tranny or body Disconnect CV joints at tranny and tie CVs out of way with coat hanger or ? (I tie them to the springs) Disconnect flexible heater hoses at flapper valve or body Place floor jack under rear of engine and raise it so it just puts pressure on engine case Call a friend ......... Disconnect two outer engine bar bolts at body Disconnect 4 tranny mount bolts at body Have friend hold onto exhaust pipes to steady engine and start lowering jack As you lower drivetrain assembly, watch for CVs binding anywhere on the tranny Watch engine tin getting bound up on inner trailing arm nut Watch fuel hoses catching on inner trailing arm nut Watch for any hoses, wires, etc you forgot to disconnect. Once jack is fully down ... you may have to tilt rear of engine up and pull the jack out from underneath the engine depending upon how high you got the ass end of the car up to pull the assembly from underneath the car. There are other methods using funiture carts, dropping car as low as possible and then raising car up over engine assembly, etc. |
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| skline |
Jul 14 2007, 11:02 AM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Jul 14 2007, 07:42 AM) There are other methods using funiture carts, dropping car as low as possible and then raising car up over engine assembly, etc. I do everything the same except I use the furniture dolly and drop the whole car down and then lift the body up to clear the engine and roll it out. Less chance of dropping the engine and I don't drag it on the concrete. Works great and the whole thing takes about 40 minutes or so. By myself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| ConeDodger |
Jul 14 2007, 12:06 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,589 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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QUOTE(kconway @ Jul 14 2007, 08:06 AM) I'm going to attempt to drop the drivetrain for the first time. I've seen it written up before and would have thought it be in the classics forum. Anyone got a link...to retarded to use the seach properly, hopefully dropping the engine is easier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) Kev Actually, it is under Technical Articles under 914 Info at the top of the page.... It is a McMark Article... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Jul 14 2007, 12:20 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(kconway @ Jul 14 2007, 07:06 AM) Anyone got a link... yupp ... "914 Info/Technical articles/Dropping your four cylinder engine" http://www.914world.com/specs/tech_engdrop1.php (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy |
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| kconway |
Jul 14 2007, 07:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Monrovia, CA Member No.: 3,231 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jul 14 2007, 11:06 AM) QUOTE(kconway @ Jul 14 2007, 08:06 AM) I'm going to attempt to drop the drivetrain for the first time. I've seen it written up before and would have thought it be in the classics forum. Anyone got a link...to retarded to use the seach properly, hopefully dropping the engine is easier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) Kev Actually, it is under Technical Articles under 914 Info at the top of the page.... It is a McMark Article... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Fantastic! Thats the one. I've seen it before but didn't know where. Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Prolly a dumb question, but any reason to drain the fluids first? |
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| Pat Garvey |
Jul 14 2007, 08:34 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(kconway @ Jul 14 2007, 07:51 PM) QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jul 14 2007, 11:06 AM) QUOTE(kconway @ Jul 14 2007, 08:06 AM) I'm going to attempt to drop the drivetrain for the first time. I've seen it written up before and would have thought it be in the classics forum. Anyone got a link...to retarded to use the seach properly, hopefully dropping the engine is easier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) Kev Actually, it is under Technical Articles under 914 Info at the top of the page.... It is a McMark Article... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Fantastic! Thats the one. I've seen it before but didn't know where. Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Prolly a dumb question, but any reason to drain the fluids first? Well, you'll probably need to do it later, so why not sooner? All the aforementioned tips are right on, though I would go to Wall Mart & get a furniture dolly. Or make one. Makes it SO much easier to move around! |
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| addwestern |
Jul 14 2007, 10:53 PM
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NorCal Parts guy Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 21-June 06 From: Sacramento Member No.: 6,276 |
We use a heavy duty plant dolly. It's a littl esmaller and the casters are a little beefier- works absolutely great.
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| kconway |
Jul 14 2007, 11:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Monrovia, CA Member No.: 3,231 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jul 14 2007, 07:34 PM) QUOTE(kconway @ Jul 14 2007, 07:51 PM) QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jul 14 2007, 11:06 AM) QUOTE(kconway @ Jul 14 2007, 08:06 AM) I'm going to attempt to drop the drivetrain for the first time. I've seen it written up before and would have thought it be in the classics forum. Anyone got a link...to retarded to use the seach properly, hopefully dropping the engine is easier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) Kev Actually, it is under Technical Articles under 914 Info at the top of the page.... It is a McMark Article... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Fantastic! Thats the one. I've seen it before but didn't know where. Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Prolly a dumb question, but any reason to drain the fluids first? Well, you'll probably need to do it later, so why not sooner? All the aforementioned tips are right on, though I would go to Wall Mart & get a furniture dolly. Or make one. Makes it SO much easier to move around! Got a furniture dolly I use to move my shop tools around. However; I plan on pulling the tranny off and put the engine on a stand to reseal it. Art Zapf helping me go through the tranny too while the body is at the body shop. |
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| Willowcreeklane |
Jul 15 2007, 12:27 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Anaheim Member No.: 6,768 |
Who the hell is Art Zaft??
Throw a engine removal party! Beer is a great motivator. |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Jul 15 2007, 12:44 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(Willowcreeklane @ Jul 14 2007, 11:27 PM) Who the hell is Art Zaft?? Throw a engine removal party! Beer is a great motivator. I just love it whe 10 people stand around for three hours while you did 30 to 40 minutes worth of work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) But hey, who needs a reason to drink (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| xperu |
Jul 15 2007, 08:11 AM
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TEXAS Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 13-June 06 From: League City Texas Member No.: 6,213 Region Association: None
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I just dropped mine last month and I used the AA tech artical George wrote, it worked really well for me. Mike
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| kconway |
Jul 15 2007, 09:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Monrovia, CA Member No.: 3,231 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Willowcreeklane @ Jul 14 2007, 11:27 PM) Who the hell is Art Zaft?? Throw a engine removal party! Beer is a great motivator. Heh...you know him better than I. How's your tranny working? You wanna do yours too? |
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| kconway |
Jul 15 2007, 11:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Monrovia, CA Member No.: 3,231 Region Association: Southern California |
The McMark write up worked out fantastic with the pix..The drop went fairly smooth, no stripped out cone screws or CV bolts. Part of the tin did get hung up and was bent a little. Was able to do the entire job myself. Hardest part is getting the entire drivetrain on the furniture dolly without help. Its pretty heavy.
Ready to move on to cleaning up the engine bay then off to the bodyshop. I'm happy, progress made! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)   |
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| McMark |
Jul 15 2007, 11:26 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Nice work!
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| Chris Pincetich |
Jul 16 2007, 03:26 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
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Hey wait - no rear bumper OR exhaust? You're cheating. Re-install and do it the hard way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| kconway |
Jul 16 2007, 05:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Monrovia, CA Member No.: 3,231 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(ChrisNPDrider @ Jul 16 2007, 02:26 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Hey wait - no rear bumper OR exhaust? You're cheating. Re-install and do it the hard way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) heh...I also stripped out the rear window, door windows, rockers, front valance, headlights and targa seal...thought it might make it easier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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