 Seam Sealer, Can we revisit this? |
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| Eric_Shea |
 Jul 16 2007, 09:40 PM
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PMB Performance  Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains   |
I have some areas on the GT project that I would like to cover with seam sealer. I would like to emulate the factory "spray on" variety that is already present in this 74 tub.
Does anyone know the process or product involved? I've searched and found McKanica in an aerosol but it still comes out like the 70 version in a bead that you would smear around. I want the bubbly appearance of the later cars. Thoughts? |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Jul 17 2007, 08:46 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Eric- called my bud Pete down in Charolette- he runs a body shop down there & used to run the one in Rockville my other buddies own. Anyway, he said 3M makes a foaming seam sealer & that's what you want to use to replicate the original sealer. Does not remember the name or part # but he's working on it & I'll get it to you ASAP.
Problem is, according to Pete, it takes practice. You have to practice doing what you want to replicate, onto some cardboard. This can get expensive as I'm sure the stuff is going to be something like $35.00/can... wholesale! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) |
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| Ferg |
Jul 17 2007, 09:29 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None
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Eric, I will ask my paint guy as well, I had them replicate it on the rear trunk of the white six during paint, and it was almost a perfect match as far as texture...
Ferg (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jul 17 2007, 10:06 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Excellent guys. Thanks. Keep me posted please.
If there's a "home" solution, that's kind of what I am looking for. If not and it takes a Schutz gun then I'm OK with that as well, I'd just like to know the process. |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Jul 17 2007, 10:22 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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OK, no response yet from 3M but here's something very unexpected-
Wurth Sprayable Sealer- (part # 8909228-U) available from Wurth FLA., Wurth IL., Wurth NJ. or most likely in your case, because it's closest, Wurth CA.- 1(800) 346-4198. This product is Dutch & very likely the original culprit. Must be applied w/ a gun that can cost anywhere from $250.00 to $500.00! Part # on the gun is: (8916280). Comes w/ different tips for different widths & again- practice practice practice. Still working on the 3M alternative. Does that help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jul 17 2007, 02:22 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
My painter has a Schutz gun that he did Gint's car with... is the Wurth sealer the same as the Wurth Body Schutz?
Good lead... I'll dig in to that one. (Dutch or Deutch?) Thanks Skippy! |
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| Johny Blackstain |
 Jul 17 2007, 02:48 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jul 17 2007, 04:22 PM)  My painter has a Schutz gun that he did Gint's car with... is the Wurth sealer the same as the Wurth Body Schutz? Good lead... I'll dig in to that one. (Dutch or Deutch?) Thanks Skippy! Well @ least you didn't have the nerve to call me Jif (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . Dutch as in Holland/Nederlands. I don't know if it's the same as the shutz. Still waiting for the 3M callback. Skippy... should have never said nothin. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jul 17 2007, 04:35 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I like Skippy... the name "sticks" (so to speak) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| Johny Blackstain |
Jul 17 2007, 05:15 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jul 17 2007, 06:35 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Should I change my name to Skippy Blackstain? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jul 17 2007, 06:29 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Beats Skippy Brownstain...
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| Johny Blackstain |
Jul 17 2007, 06:47 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jul 17 2007, 08:29 PM) Beats Skippy Brownstain... That's the whole point of wearing matching black underwear! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| Ferg |
Jul 18 2007, 08:56 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None
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My guy used a Schutz gun, not sure what product he used, it's been a couple of years.
Ferg (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Pat Garvey |
Jul 18 2007, 09:19 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jul 17 2007, 02:22 PM) My painter has a Schutz gun that he did Gint's car with... is the Wurth sealer the same as the Wurth Body Schutz? Good lead... I'll dig in to that one. (Dutch or Deutch?) Thanks Skippy! NO! It isn't. And the Schutz gun (I have one) is to be used for Body Schutz only (rubbuerized undercoating). The sealer is a whole different animal. There were two forms of seam sealer application: 1. Swab, paint, daub & touchup - very early 914's. 2. Goosh & paint - '72 on 914's/ While I have no idea what sort of tool or compound they used in either case, the effect was dramatically different in appearance. Many people would look at the early 914's & say it's wrong. Not so. Production techniques changed sometime in early '72 to the goosh & paint method. I'm ceratin they had some sort of forced air & good tool, but have never seen one. Could be they just used a caulking gun, but that doesn't sound efficient for a produstion line. Pat |
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| xsurfer |
Jul 18 2007, 10:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 4-April 06 From: La Canada, CA Member No.: 5,818 |
I just had a suspension pan installed in a taildragger. Wurth was used in the trunk. Sprayed on for sure. Kevin has been restoring Porsches for about 30 years.
I'll ask then post. I need to know for my six's paint job. Great question! |
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| scotty b |
Jul 20 2007, 08:24 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Jul 17 2007, 08:22 AM) OK, no response yet from 3M but here's something very unexpected- Wurth Sprayable Sealer- (part # 8909228-U) available from Wurth FLA., Wurth IL., Wurth NJ. or most likely in your case, because it's closest, Wurth CA.- 1(800) 346-4198. This product is Dutch & very likely the original culprit. Must be applied w/ a gun that can cost anywhere from $250.00 to $500.00! Part # on the gun is: (8916280). Comes w/ different tips for different widths & again- practice practice practice. Still working on the 3M alternative. Does that help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) That will definitly yeild THE BEST results. We use that setup at werk and I can tell you from personal experience it is almost perfect. I believe with a little adjustment it can be an exact match. BUT yes the gun is expensive. HOWEVER if'n you buy a case of the seam sealer you get the gun for "free" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jul 21 2007, 09:32 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,832 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
We use the Wurth stuff with the two special Wurth guns, and one CANNOT tell its application from that of the original factory
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| orthobiz |
Jul 21 2007, 08:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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