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> What aluminum radiator are you guys running?, V8 conversion...
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post Jul 17 2007, 01:52 PM
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Alright my original "old school" Renegade H. radiator is leaking. Now those of you that put together your cooling setup, what Aluminum radiator did you run from Summit or Jegs? Or other online source?
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post Jul 17 2007, 03:10 PM
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Mine is a custom made dual pass unit, cost me 275 bucks, no problems with heat for 2 years now.

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post Jul 17 2007, 03:15 PM
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i have a new school RH cooling system in mine but am not using a RH water pump or fittings - i am running with a chevy short water pump and needed to removed the thermostat to keep temps down.


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post Jul 17 2007, 04:17 PM
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I'm using an AFCO ASA dual pass racing radiator #80133. $249

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post Jul 17 2007, 06:43 PM
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Griffing Scirocco dual pass from Summit (Buick 3.8L V6)

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post Jul 17 2007, 07:13 PM
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I enjoy looking at all of the monster holes you guys had to cut in your wheel wells to let all that hot air out. Please post more pics like that. Looks like a lot of hose clamps to try to keep tight too.
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post Jul 17 2007, 08:56 PM
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don't be a hater.

i'd have the biggest porsche 6 in mine if money was unlimited.

choices - it is great we have a wide assortment of choices to pick from.

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I enjoy looking at all of the monster holes you guys had to cut in your wheel wells to let all that hot air out. Please post more pics like that. Looks like a lot of hose clamps to try to keep tight too.

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post Jul 17 2007, 09:06 PM
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I have to agree on the part about the hose clamps, there should only be the ones holding it to the radiator and the one at the rear where it connects to the components. Too many clamps make more chances for failure. Ask Joe Buckle how many we took out of his when he bought it, that car was so screwed up and mickey moused it was pathetic. He has or will be pretty much rebuilding that whole car. This time, he is doing it right however.


But the choices we have for these cars is growing everyday, I still like the SBC option and I am sticking with it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 17 2007, 09:47 PM
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these two?


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post Jul 18 2007, 01:37 AM
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Griffin single pass from Summit Racing. $250.
Fans with electronic thermostat from craigslist. Almost new. $40
Custom made aluminum shroud. Chopped up cookie sheet from a local garage sale. $1.00

Remote electric pump from Summit. Forgot how much....

Ran it on the hottest day this summer in stop and go traffic and it never saw 200.


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post Jul 18 2007, 01:48 AM
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Scott,
I changed my mind. I'm going Diesel.
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QUOTE(skline @ Jul 17 2007, 07:06 PM) *

I have to agree on the part about the hose clamps, there should only be the ones holding it to the radiator and the one at the rear where it connects to the components. Too many clamps make more chances for failure. Ask Joe Buckle how many we took out of his when he bought it, that car was so screwed up and mickey moused it was pathetic. He has or will be pretty much rebuilding that whole car. This time, he is doing it right however.


But the choices we have for these cars is growing everyday, I still like the SBC option and I am sticking with it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Yup, as pictured way too many clamps. What I am doing is to mock up a hose from pieces to use as a template to get aluminum tubing bent to match. I am running hard lines under the car that fit into the recesses of the center tunnel.
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post Jul 18 2007, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(JB 914 @ Jul 17 2007, 11:48 PM) *

Scott,
I changed my mind. I'm going Diesel.


So when can I come by and pick up that 327 that you no longer need? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 18 2007, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Jul 18 2007, 06:57 AM) *

QUOTE(skline @ Jul 17 2007, 07:06 PM) *

I have to agree on the part about the hose clamps, there should only be the ones holding it to the radiator and the one at the rear where it connects to the components. Too many clamps make more chances for failure. Ask Joe Buckle how many we took out of his when he bought it, that car was so screwed up and mickey moused it was pathetic. He has or will be pretty much rebuilding that whole car. This time, he is doing it right however.


But the choices we have for these cars is growing everyday, I still like the SBC option and I am sticking with it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Yup, as pictured way too many clamps. What I am doing is to mock up a hose from pieces to use as a template to get aluminum tubing bent to match. I am running hard lines under the car that fit into the recesses of the center tunnel.
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Just a word of caution; Be sure to allow for both expansion of the tubing and vibration/movement allowances. The tubing, especially aluminum, will grow considerably in length and may cause unwanted bind leading to failure. While it is true that the more joints the more potential for failure, the rubber hose will dampen a lot of vibration.

I also did under car hard lines.

Here's a shot of the radiator hard lines done in stailnless tubing (tacked together). Didn't want to, but had to cross them over for best routing.

Andys




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post Jul 18 2007, 11:01 AM
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Yup, as pictured way too many clamps. What I am doing is to mock up a hose from pieces to use as a template to get aluminum tubing bent to match. I am running hard lines under the car that fit into the recesses of the center tunnel.
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When I saw the pictures of your radiator with all of the hose clamps I thought about how it didn't look like the rest of the car. I've been following your build from your web page.

Got to say your car is one of the best conversions out there. Keep up the good work.

Bob
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"When I saw the pictures of your radiator with all of the hose clamps I thought about how it didn't look like the rest of the car. I've been following your build from your web page. "

Got to keep every one one their toes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

Thanks for the kind words
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post Jul 19 2007, 10:44 PM
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RH with a Subie EJ20. Seldom hits 190 even in Tampa traffic.

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post Jul 20 2007, 12:40 PM
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Griffin aluminum 2 pass, about $275, fits great and works so good I can run pusher fans. even on the hottest days, one fan is all it takes, I have the second one on manual. The guys are right about minimum joints, it's the only way to go. I ran my hoses thru copper 90 degree ells to get them to turn neatly into the front compartment and used the good (and very expensive) marine hose with the wire in it. i really wanted to have an auxiliary electric pump to run for a minute or two after the car was shut down but gave up the idea because of the extra joints it would take.


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QUOTE(tyler @ Jul 20 2007, 12:40 PM) *

I ran my hoses thru copper 90 degree ells to get them to turn neatly into the front compartment and used the good (and very expensive) marine hose with the wire in it. i really wanted to have an auxiliary electric pump to run for a minute or two after the car was shut down but gave up the idea because of the extra joints it would take.


Tyler,

Just how expensive is that marine hose ? Apart from the copper ells in the front compartment, do you run the marine hose all the way to the engine ?


And for anybody running tubing in those channels on the underside of the car : what kind of clamps do you use ?

Thx
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post Jul 20 2007, 01:33 PM
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That is the only hose I would run on my car. It's really not that expensive either. To buy the hoses from Renegade or Rod Simpson, you would spend $100 just for the hoses, I get it across the street from my house from Mesa Hose and it cost me $80 for both hoses. We used it on Joe Buckles car too when we replaced all the hoses on his car. It is some really tough hose. The only hose better would be the Silicone hose they sell, that however, is expensive, it was like $13 something a foot.

Yes, you run it from the radiator to the engine, no connections in between.
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