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post Jul 20 2007, 01:34 PM
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My clamps are made from 1/8" aluminum. Nuts are welded to the flor pan.
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post Jul 20 2007, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(skline @ Jul 20 2007, 01:33 PM) *

That is the only hose I would run on my car. It's really not that expensive either. To buy the hoses from Renegade or Rod Simpson, you would spend $100 just for the hoses, I get it across the street from my house from Mesa Hose and it cost me $80 for both hoses. We used it on Joe Buckles car too when we replaced all the hoses on his car. It is some really tough hose. The only hose better would be the Silicone hose they sell, that however, is expensive, it was like $13 something a foot.

Yes, you run it from the radiator to the engine, no connections in between.



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Funny coincidence : I went to a store today looking for fuel-line related stuff, and as an afterthought asked about coolant hoses. They pointed me to a pretty decent selection of that marine hose. I hadn't heard of anyone using it in their conversions til I checked this thread today. Probably what I'll go with.

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post Jul 20 2007, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Jul 20 2007, 11:34 AM) *

My clamps are made from 1/8" aluminum. Nuts are welded to the flor pan.
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That looks pretty clean, I have seen everything from what you are running to just some plumbers tape you can buy by the roll. I used rubber covered clamps I got from a friend of mine with a parts shop, he had a big old box of them. I used 5 or 6 per hose underneath the car. That was on the Chalon, I will probably do the same or similar on this car.
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post Jul 20 2007, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Jul 20 2007, 11:34 AM) *

My clamps are made from 1/8" aluminum. Nuts are welded to the flor pan.
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Paul,

if you want to coat those clamps with rubber (tighter fit, no chance of vibration) look up Loctite USA, under product search "Color Guard". It's a brushable/dipable rubber coating. It's main use is coating tool handles so they are nonslip.
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post Jul 20 2007, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Jul 20 2007, 12:34 PM) *

My clamps are made from 1/8" aluminum. Nuts are welded to the flor pan.
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Paul,

Did you drill holes through the pan to allow for some thread to protrude past the nut? I'm about to fasten my pipes now. BTW, chain link fence gate hardware has some very similar shapes to your clamps though steel (and galvinized).

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post Jul 20 2007, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(andys @ Jul 20 2007, 01:24 PM) *

QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Jul 20 2007, 12:34 PM) *

My clamps are made from 1/8" aluminum. Nuts are welded to the flor pan.
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Paul,

Did you drill holes through the pan to allow for some thread to protrude past the nut? I'm about to fasten my pipes now. BTW, chain link fence gate hardware has some very similar shapes to your clamps though steel (and galvinized).

Andys


Yes, I drilled holes through the pan and welded the nuts to the bottom side.
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post Aug 6 2007, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(skline @ Jul 20 2007, 02:33 PM) *

That is the only hose I would run on my car. It's really not that expensive either. To buy the hoses from Renegade or Rod Simpson, you would spend $100 just for the hoses, I get it across the street from my house from Mesa Hose and it cost me $80 for both hoses. We used it on Joe Buckles car too when we replaced all the hoses on his car. It is some really tough hose. The only hose better would be the Silicone hose they sell, that however, is expensive, it was like $13 something a foot.

Yes, you run it from the radiator to the engine, no connections in between.


I'm very new to this but studying hard to get up to speed, can you get the marine hose inside the tunnel or is this out of the question? Coud you run the hose individually down each side in the rocker area? I'm just trying to not have it on the bottom of the pan. Also I have the subie wrx radiator and fans from the donor. I was hoping to use the condensor and radiator as they came out of the car. Won't that work? Fieros had a neat place on either side of the tank to run everything but have a huge tunnel and small interior I guess it's all a compromise.
back to the homework.
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Charlie -
As may be thought of the most illogical place to run the hose, under the car has
PROVEN to be the solution for this scenario -

There have been many many many many people that have been down this path before you -

Each of the other scenarios presents issues that either make the car undependable, undrivable, or both -

It mainly has to do with the best way to cool the car, with the least amount of problems-

Through the rockers you will constantly by dealing with air pockets which create steam and major cooloing issues.

Through the inside of the center tunnel will make the car almost unbearable to drive due to the heat, and this does not address that there simply is not enough room for the hoses inside the tunnel as well -

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post Aug 6 2007, 01:02 PM
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There's several different types. I think it's important to get the type with the wire (embedded in the wall) so it won't collapse and can be bent around corners easily.
Also the type I used was for "engine exhaust". I thought it was priced by the "inch" but I could be wrong since it's been so long.
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Funny coincidence : I went to a store today looking for fuel-line related stuff, and as an afterthought asked about coolant hoses. They pointed me to a pretty decent selection of that marine hose. I hadn't heard of anyone using it in their conversions til I checked this thread today. Probably what I'll go with.
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post Aug 8 2007, 12:15 AM
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How many feet of hose are you guys using on average ... Trying to get an idea how much to start with on my lil' project ??...
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post Aug 8 2007, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(charliew @ Aug 6 2007, 10:14 AM) *

QUOTE(skline @ Jul 20 2007, 02:33 PM) *

That is the only hose I would run on my car. It's really not that expensive either. To buy the hoses from Renegade or Rod Simpson, you would spend $100 just for the hoses, I get it across the street from my house from Mesa Hose and it cost me $80 for both hoses. We used it on Joe Buckles car too when we replaced all the hoses on his car. It is some really tough hose. The only hose better would be the Silicone hose they sell, that however, is expensive, it was like $13 something a foot.

Yes, you run it from the radiator to the engine, no connections in between.


I'm very new to this but studying hard to get up to speed, can you get the marine hose inside the tunnel or is this out of the question? Coud you run the hose individually down each side in the rocker area? I'm just trying to not have it on the bottom of the pan. Also I have the subie wrx radiator and fans from the donor. I was hoping to use the condensor and radiator as they came out of the car. Won't that work? Fieros had a neat place on either side of the tank to run everything but have a huge tunnel and small interior I guess it's all a compromise.
back to the homework.
Charlie


Charlie,
I ran my hose in the heater tubes, inlet one side and outlet on the other. I used bellowsflex, 1" ID in and out. The radiator I used has both fittings on the passenger side, so my driver side hose had to move along the heater blower motor area and then go down under the gas tank and out front trunk wall to the radiator. That part took some careful placing of the line but has been there and running everyday for over 2 years. It was a no brainier for me to go this path but others have done nice work running the hose under the car..
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post Aug 9 2007, 11:36 AM
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Hey Drive-ability,
Can you shoot some pics and post, I am having a hard time grasping the placement. My 930 tranny comes tomorrow so right now I am redoing all coolant lines and installing a Meziere water pump that is electric. I would like to run them like you said yours are.

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post Aug 9 2007, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(army dude @ Aug 9 2007, 10:36 AM) *

Hey Drive-ability,
Can you shoot some pics and post, I am having a hard time grasping the placement. My 930 tranny comes tomorrow so right now I am redoing all coolant lines and installing a Meziere water pump that is electric. I would like to run them like you said yours are.

Ian


Army dude,
Pm me a email address I can send some, much essayer that way. I'll take them in the am and send them out tomorrow. Nice to see your getting your 930 transmission going!!!
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post Aug 9 2007, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(drive-ability @ Aug 10 2007, 12:39 AM) *

QUOTE(army dude @ Aug 9 2007, 10:36 AM) *

Hey Drive-ability,
Can you shoot some pics and post, I am having a hard time grasping the placement. My 930 tranny comes tomorrow so right now I am redoing all coolant lines and installing a Meziere water pump that is electric. I would like to run them like you said yours are.

Ian


Army dude,
Pm me a email address I can send some, much essayer that way. I'll take them in the am and send them out tomorrow. Nice to see your getting your 930 transmission going!!!



What about the rest of us who want to see ??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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post Aug 9 2007, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(dakotaewing @ Aug 9 2007, 10:48 PM) *

QUOTE(drive-ability @ Aug 10 2007, 12:39 AM) *

QUOTE(army dude @ Aug 9 2007, 10:36 AM) *

Hey Drive-ability,
Can you shoot some pics and post, I am having a hard time grasping the placement. My 930 tranny comes tomorrow so right now I am redoing all coolant lines and installing a Meziere water pump that is electric. I would like to run them like you said yours are.

Ian


Army dude,
Pm me a email address I can send some, much essayer that way. I'll take them in the am and send them out tomorrow. Nice to see your getting your 930 transmission going!!!



What about the rest of us who want to see ??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)



Sure,
I can post the pictures, There are some shots I don't have, the ones under the gas tank but I have others that show how it goes through the trunk area leading down beside the gas tank etc. You have to use a wire impregnated hose to get the tight bends clean.
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I hope this helps, the only thing I had to do was make a 1/2 inch bulge in the area where both hoses go down besides the gas tank, just to get things to fit perfect. You may not have to do this at all. The rest of the routing is just through the hole in the lower dash, into the longs and out in the engine bay. I had to work a bit to get the hoses through the longs but I am sure you can do it. I have never felt any heat from the hoses radiating from the longs so don't worry about heating the cab from this method.
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