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jasons |
Aug 20 2007, 10:29 AM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,002 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
........but your method of getting it across is a tad manic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) Hi. My name is Joe. I prefer the term "passionate". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) OK. This was fun. Moving on....... If I could have an unlimited budget to build a car, I would want to build your RS almost exactly (or buy it outright). And I think that silver car looks like ass with the cowl induction hood, and parts from home depot. But c'mon, you came here (this thread) looking for a fight. You posted once, no one cared, then you went out of your way to make sure someone would give a shit. SO, I think we should somehow arrange for Chuck Norris to drive that silver V8 and race you in your RS. Lets put talk aside, and get to 'man' business here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
Brian Mifsud |
Aug 20 2007, 12:32 PM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
What? No replies? Look. Horizontal drop links do absolutely nothing. The bushing brackets are about 2" too far aft. It seems typical of the type of person who puts an American V8 in a 914. They're looking for 1/4 mile performance, while having no understanding of how a sports car actually works. Have a look at the white outlines: That's a sharp eye Joe, and I do agree that the installation of the sway bar is wrong. Now, not to kindle an arguement, but that sway bar WILL work however, just in a significantly reduced range of motion (and it may be so significantly reduced, that is is useless). He could fix that by installing longer links, or moving the pivot point forward as you say. Good call on the CV boots not being protected well. He DID have the awareness however to understand that shielding was important, he just lacked your infrared-eye (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's amazing how the variety of opinions on V8 Cars clash/crash/come together in this thread. I think people in general appreciate evidence of hard work, and skilled hands. The car has imperfections still, but remember, the motivation to modify (in the eye of the beholder) is the individuals' perception of imperfection (lack of power) and their quest to fix that. I find looking at and comparing cars like this fun because of the creativity and imagination of the builder and will always welcome posts like this. |
Series9 |
Aug 20 2007, 01:32 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
....... you came here (this thread) looking for a fight. SO, I think we should somehow arrange for Chuck Norris to drive that silver V8 and race you in your RS. Lets put talk aside, and get to 'man' business here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I actually first looked because I hoped to see some nice engineering. As for a race with Chuck, get him on the phone. I'm in. Of course, it'll have to be a drag race because I'm sure that car doesn't turn or stop any more. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) |
charliew |
Aug 20 2007, 08:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
One of the nicest conversions I have ever seen. I like the side scoops on the rockers and rear quarter panels. Something tells me they are functional and not just for looks. I see a radiator AND and oil cooler. Do I also see air conditioning? I'd sure like to know more about the shifter mechanism. Is that a 915 trans? I also like the heat shieldes around the Magnaflo mufflers as well as other places. All in all just a very nice job. Even if you're not a V8 person, you gotta love this car. cheers, Elliot I would really like to try the shifter out. I don't see any mechanical way to reliably twist the tranny shaft with spherical ball ends. Charlie |
aircooledboy |
Aug 20 2007, 08:58 PM
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Sweet Pea's 1st ride in daddy's "vroom -vroom" Group: Members Posts: 1,672 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Rockford, IL Member No.: 1,629 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I promise you, that won't be the lesson. That engine alone weighs 175 pounds more than mine. The total installation is at least 250 pounds heavier. I'd like to know where those numbers come from. I see people throw around numbers like that in nearly every V8 thread. I don't know for sure, but my gut tells me there is no way your 3.6 w/ cooler, tank & lines is 250 lbs less than an aluminium head 350. It's probably less, but not 2-fity. If you can back that position up, I'd like to see it. QUOTE The lesson: Power:weight is all that matters. That V8 has to make 100 hp more than mine just to offset its weight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) I've never called bullshit before, but I've gotta do it here. That's some pretty fancy math there. If in order to keep up with your car a V8 has to make up 100 hp to offset that 250 lbs I'm not buying anyway, that means your car must be making 1hp/2.5lbs. So, either your car is making about 880hp, in which case congrats are in order, or your car weighs about 875 lbs, which is amazing based on the pics I've seen, or (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) is in order. Everybody is entitled to their personal opinion on the merits of a particular conversion, but I get tired of the made up numbers to justify the "V8s suck" point of view. |
michaelt55 |
Aug 20 2007, 09:08 PM
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Graduate of Life's experiences Group: Members Posts: 438 Joined: 2-September 06 From: Richmond, Texas Member No.: 6,753 Region Association: None |
Joe,
I have a 215 all aluminum V8 in mine, weighs the same or less than your 6 with all its equipment. Its roughly about 215 hp by the dyno here in Houston. Only thing I gave up was the center of gravity and not by very much. As soon as I get rid of this tail shifter, I think even you would have to admire the torque and driveability of the engine. I also have a 1150 lb fiberglass kit car with a 2056 in it. The V8 eats it for lunch. I try not ridicule anyone on this board, regardless of their views. I think that is one reason the board split was due to the "passionate" posts by people. I hope history does not repeat itself. This thread is done in my opinion Michael |
URY914 |
Aug 20 2007, 09:20 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,758 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
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drive-ability |
Aug 20 2007, 10:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
Series9
I love the way my V8 runs, I don't know how quick a 3.6 would be but I guess its quite a gas to drive. I built my car for a tad over 16k, what do you have in your project? I guess a bit more or ? |
JoeSharp |
Aug 21 2007, 03:02 AM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
I thought this thread was about the quality of the car in the e-bay add.
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jasons |
Aug 21 2007, 07:55 AM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,002 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
I thought this thread was about the quality of the car in the e-bay add. I've been following this thread somewhat closely and it has actually had a profound affect on me. No bullshit and I aint sharing why, you wouldn't care anyway. Anywho..... It was about that and it had just about been played out. But posts like these... QUOTE It seems typical of the type of person who puts an American V8 in a 914. They're looking for 1/4 mile performance, while having no understanding of how a sports car actually works. And.... QUOTE That may be so, but I assure you that my little 3.6 will KILL that stupid 5+Liter V8. .... Are going to illicit a response. Dontyathink? I'm not saying anyones right or wrong technically or socially, but you can't expect opinions this strong to not be countered by opinions just as strong. I mean when someone starts talking Porsche engine swaps, we are bordering on a passion that is exceeded only by Religon and Politics. And we all know most of those debates end with bad feelings. |
jmmotorsports |
Aug 21 2007, 08:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: 15-August 06 From: Kelso,Wa. Member No.: 6,658 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
It seems typical of the type of person who puts an American V8 in a 914. They're looking for 1/4 mile performance, while having no understanding of how a sports car actually works. I think Ford when they built the GT40, Jim Hall with the Chapperel,lola t-70, McLaren all had a pretty good understanding of how a sports car works when they put what you call stupid V8's in them. I have a 914 V8 that stpos and goes around corners every bit as well as your car dose. And I don't need Chuck Norris or anybody else to drive it for me. Jerry |
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Aug 21 2007, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
For me it was a few flakes who decide to just start comparing there cars to others. If you get off on putting down others best efforts I suggest showing off you little car in a Ferrari forum. My guess your best effort will be laughed off the site. I'm done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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jaminM3 |
Aug 21 2007, 04:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: 23-March 07 From: SLC, UT Member No.: 7,619 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
It seems typical of the type of person who puts an American V8 in a 914. They're looking for 1/4 mile performance, while having no understanding of how a sports car actually works. I think Ford when they built the GT40, Jim Hall with the Chapperel,lola t-70, McLaren all had a pretty good understanding of how a sports car works when they put what you call stupid V8's in them. I have a 914 V8 that stpos and goes around corners every bit as well as your car dose. And I don't need Chuck Norris or anybody else to drive it for me. Jerry Can we see more pics of the car in your avatar? It looks sweet.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) |
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