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> Update from Packwood NT, End of day 1
J P Stein
post Aug 21 2007, 06:02 AM
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The class minimum for XP with a 2.7L mid engine car is 1781, W/O driver...according to the convoluted rules. The SCCA scales said I was at 1739 and I had no ballast with me nor provisions for mounting any. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

The first A Mod car shown in the pics was built specifically for autocross.
Them Canucks have an affinity for the weird, me thinks.....maybe it's the long winters.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 21 2007, 12:12 PM
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That red car looks a bit dated. The white car looks like the National A-Mods. I've got a collection of photos of those cars. The wings look like World of Outlaw sprinter cars.
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post Aug 21 2007, 01:06 PM
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congrats, brit -- that's a nice accomplishment!
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post Aug 22 2007, 08:35 PM
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How'sa bout a vid?....OK.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
The audio sucks, but it's better than last time. I'm workin' on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYtST_N5Flc
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post Aug 22 2007, 08:47 PM
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How can you tell it was a 914 in car vid?

rumble rumble ernch (selects 1st gear) rumble rumble vroom.

Hey JP ya know these cars got more than 2 gears. sounds like you stayed in 2nd the whole course.

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post Aug 22 2007, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(Joe Ricard @ Aug 22 2007, 07:47 PM) *



Hey JP ya know these cars got more than 2 gears. sounds like you stayed in 2nd the whole course.


Really?
I thought there was just the 2........
A data logger in a real fast CSP Miata said 55mph was his top speed on that course.
I did get on the limiter once in #2.....62 mph. You may have noticed the "straights" were few & far between....not to mention short.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 22 2007, 09:47 PM
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That's why I put the flipped ZD for 3rd gear.

6250 old motor rev limit was not fast enough for me in 2nd gear. Plus the car was harder to drive in 2nd at or near the rev limiter.

I rather shift to 3rd and stay on my 4 banger torque. If I remember right I get about 67 in 3rd.

Ah the differences between 4's and 6's.

New higher rev limit 7K should really change the whole ball game.
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post Aug 23 2007, 12:33 AM
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I'm just amazed at how many stock class cars beat up on prepared and modifieds. Nothing like slicker surface to equalize things for everyone.
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Not really, Super Stock cars are probably the fastest cars out there as far as real cars go.

There is of course the driver factor. SS guys buy "THE CAR" to put them in a position to win. Z06 Vette, Sport Elise, GT3. They also can drive really well.

Some prepared cars and Street mod cars are very fast but also very expensive. The two FD Mazdas in SM-2 easily have 80-100K invested. Stans Vette in XP is an absolute engineering marvel that tops 120K.

Point is you got to pay to play. 10K 914 like mine nicking the heels of the vette is nothing to dismiss. But I'll never be able to afford what it will take to close that last few seconds

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post Aug 23 2007, 06:45 AM
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QUOTE(grantsfo @ Aug 22 2007, 11:33 PM) *

I'm just amazed at how many stock class cars beat up on prepared and modifieds. Nothing like slicker surface to equalize things for everyone.


Equalize?...not hardly. Both Brit & I, for instance, were about 6 seconds slower in the wet on a course that was about 2 seconds faster than the day before when it dried during the 3rd run group.

The hardcore guys had rain tires, some were just street tires, others were racing rains. The racing rains had it all over the street tires. Hoosier makes rains while Kuhmo doesn't. Those who had the right tire sponser were in biddness.

Joe is right......drivers make the difference. Most guys don't need the hassle of fooling around with a highly modified car and there is little incentive for doing so, thus most of the best drivers are in the stock or lesser modified classes.
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QUOTE(J P Stein @ Aug , 04:45 AM)


......drivers make the difference. Most guys don't need the hassle of fooling around with a highly modified car and there is little incentive for doing so, thus most of the best drivers are in the stock or lesser modified classes.

Clearly! There has never been any doubt in my mind on that point. Thats why I drag my Mazdas to SCCA C and D stock events.

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Clearly! There has never been any doubt in my mind on that point. Thats why I drag my Mazdas to SCCA C and D stock events.


Sure, can't blame you, but we gearheads march to the beat of our own drummer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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You drag your Mazdas.

Hmm I drive my XP car to events. I drive the RX-8 to events also, so much easier.
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QUOTE(Joe Ricard @ Aug 23 2007, 01:20 PM) *

You drag your Mazdas.

Hmm I drive my XP car to events. I drive the RX-8 to events also, so much easier.

Not all that tough when you have everything all setup to tow. And my wife likes being able leave me at AX events to go shopping or to walk the dog on the beach. Easy to just unhitch the trailer and she is off for fun in the truck while I'm playing parking lot racer.

Also gets a bit crowded in car if I want to include my wife, 55lb dog and all our gear.
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