Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

2 Pages V  1 2 >  
 Reply to this topicStart new topic
> SOT: Need some German help with this, Trying to read really bad copy of words......
John
post Sep 19 2007, 01:00 PM
Post #1


member? what's a member?
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,393
Joined: 30-January 04
From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA)
Member No.: 1,615
Region Association: None
So I have been working on this drawing for quite some time trying to reproduce it in CAD.

I have the basic drawing done but it needs a bunch of cleanup.

One area that I need help is figuring out what the letters in the words of the title block are. My original TIFF and JPG files were not high enough resolution for me to be able to easily read the smaller words.

I can read the larger words/letters, but need some help with the smaller ones. I don't know German so it is difficult for me to guess.

Thanks for your help.


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Matt Meyer
post Sep 19 2007, 07:14 PM
Post #2


Überlurker
**

Group: Members
Posts: 216
Joined: 2-December 03
From: Eastern Washington
Member No.: 1,411
Region Association: Pacific Northwest
Can I get a copy when you finish?

I have that drawing hanging above my desk

My guesses are

The title of the bottom right block is "Z nr."

The top word in the block two above is "Werkstoff"

Scale is "Massstub" (the first two s's should be that b with a tail thing)

I think the two boxes unte the scale are "Erstaz...."

maybe :Erstaz fur" and "Erstaz durch".

Drawn by = Gezeichnet

Checker = Gepruft

Approved = Normgepruft

Date = datum but I think I see "Tag" as in day 4 up from the bottom left corner

Across the revision block I think (top right):

Nr. Ander.... Tag Gezeichnet Gepruft

Hope I helped a little.


User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
John
post Sep 19 2007, 07:28 PM
Post #3


member? what's a member?
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,393
Joined: 30-January 04
From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA)
Member No.: 1,615
Region Association: None
Thanks for the input. I'm still looking for more.

I did some investigation (looking at the 550 blueprint helped some) and found a couple of words that seem to fit. I even tried using an English - German - English translator.

It does appear that Tag is used for date or day in both locations (creation and revisions/changes/modifications)

The oil tank blueprint is helping me fill in some spaces as well.



Is Name common between German and English?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Rick_Eberle
post Sep 19 2007, 08:49 PM
Post #4


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 390
Joined: 14-January 04
From: Geelong, Australia
Member No.: 1,558
QUOTE(John @ Sep 20 2007, 11:28 AM) *


Is Name common between German and English?

Yep, just the pronunciation is different... in German it's nah-meh.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
John
post Sep 19 2007, 10:29 PM
Post #5


member? what's a member?
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,393
Joined: 30-January 04
From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA)
Member No.: 1,615
Region Association: None
Here is as far as I'm getting with it tonight. I'm not saying that all words/letters are correct, but I'm trying.....


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Matt Meyer
post Sep 24 2007, 11:23 AM
Post #6


Überlurker
**

Group: Members
Posts: 216
Joined: 2-December 03
From: Eastern Washington
Member No.: 1,411
Region Association: Pacific Northwest
QUOTE(Rick_Eberle @ Sep 19 2007, 07:49 PM) *

QUOTE(John @ Sep 20 2007, 11:28 AM) *


Is Name common between German and English?

Yep, just the pronunciation is different... in German it's nah-meh.



IIRC it would also be written "namen" in this case.

Andy?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
davep
post Sep 24 2007, 12:11 PM
Post #7


914 Historian
*****

Group: Benefactors
Posts: 5,143
Joined: 13-October 03
From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0
Member No.: 1,244
Region Association: Canada
Keep up the good work. I await your finished drawings.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BahnBrenner914
post Sep 24 2007, 12:21 PM
Post #8


The girl is gone and all I have now is a beat-up teener
**

Group: Members
Posts: 301
Joined: 22-May 04
From: Gig Harbor and University Place, WA :: School in Angola, IN :: girlfriend in Sarasota, FL
Member No.: 2,094
Region Association: None
The middle word in the second line in the Top-Left box should be ohne (="without")

Also, the word "Rehmesse" or "RehmeBe" isnt right, unless this automotive drawing has something to do with deer (deer=Reh), although the word might be a form of Rahmen (=frame), But looking at the original, I almost want to say it starts with a "Pf" or "Pl".
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
T H O M A S
post Sep 24 2007, 09:01 PM
Post #9


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 626
Joined: 1-August 03
From: Donaueschingen, Germany
Member No.: 974
Region Association: None
samtliche abweichungen fur masse ohne toleranzangaben
under
bearbeitete flachen
werkstoffe
under
material
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Rick_Eberle
post Sep 25 2007, 03:21 AM
Post #10


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 390
Joined: 14-January 04
From: Geelong, Australia
Member No.: 1,558
QUOTE(Matt Meyer @ Sep 25 2007, 03:23 AM) *

QUOTE(Rick_Eberle @ Sep 19 2007, 07:49 PM) *

QUOTE(John @ Sep 20 2007, 11:28 AM) *


Is Name common between German and English?

Yep, just the pronunciation is different... in German it's nah-meh.



IIRC it would also be written "namen" in this case.

Andy?


That would be the plural...
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
John
post Sep 25 2007, 10:31 PM
Post #11


member? what's a member?
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,393
Joined: 30-January 04
From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA)
Member No.: 1,615
Region Association: None
Here is an updated one.

Please keep helping to fill in my blanks or correct my bad guesses.

Thanks!



Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Gustl
post Sep 26 2007, 01:32 AM
Post #12


914 enthusiast & historian
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 11,505
Joined: 16-June 04
From: TIROL / Austria
Member No.: 2,212
Region Association: Austria
John, it's very difficult to read, but I think here are some corrections:

Bearbeitete Flächen

STUTTGART - ZUFFENHAUSEN

Maßstab

Ersatz f.

Rohmeße => I think this should be Material ???

---
for additional info I will have to ask a german friend
I think he has got a copy of the big original drawing

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BahnBrenner914
post Sep 26 2007, 08:27 AM
Post #13


The girl is gone and all I have now is a beat-up teener
**

Group: Members
Posts: 301
Joined: 22-May 04
From: Gig Harbor and University Place, WA :: School in Angola, IN :: girlfriend in Sarasota, FL
Member No.: 2,094
Region Association: None
QUOTE(Gustl @ Sep 26 2007, 12:32 AM) *


Rohmeße => I think this should be Material ???



Yeah, I agree now that a couple people have said it, makes more sense anyway.

Werkstoff Material: Normal Ausfuehrung >> Factory-material Material: Normal execution/design/style
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Gustl
post Sep 26 2007, 09:44 AM
Post #14


914 enthusiast & historian
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 11,505
Joined: 16-June 04
From: TIROL / Austria
Member No.: 2,212
Region Association: Austria
btw - I just found a general failure, that's on the original drawing too

check out the VIN - it's incorrect (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
John
post Sep 26 2007, 12:45 PM
Post #15


member? what's a member?
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,393
Joined: 30-January 04
From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA)
Member No.: 1,615
Region Association: None
QUOTE(Gustl @ Sep 25 2007, 11:32 PM) *

John, it's very difficult to read, but I think here are some corrections:

Bearbeitete Flächen

STUTTGART - ZUFFENHAUSEN

Maßstab

Ersatz f.

Rohmeße => I think this should be Material ???

---
for additional info I will have to ask a german friend
I think he has got a copy of the big original drawing

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl



That would be AWESOME to be able to get it correct from a big original drawing.

So are we assuming that Rohmeße is what should be there? I don't have a clue if it is spelled correctly or what it is supposed to mean. (are you guys saying that it means "Material"?)

I'll make revisions and repost.

Thanks a bunch.


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Gustl
post Sep 26 2007, 05:11 PM
Post #16


914 enthusiast & historian
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 11,505
Joined: 16-June 04
From: TIROL / Austria
Member No.: 2,212
Region Association: Austria
QUOTE(John @ Sep 26 2007, 07:45 PM) *

So are we assuming that Rohmeße is what should be there? I don't have a clue if it is spelled correctly or what it is supposed to mean. (are you guys saying that it means "Material"?)

what I think is that there should be Material instead of Rohmeße


it will take a couple of days to get an answer from my german friend - he's not online very frequent ...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
michelko
post Sep 27 2007, 01:17 PM
Post #17


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 867
Joined: 30-November 03
From: Germany, Lambsheim
Member No.: 1,404
Region Association: None
Maybe "Material", if not then i would say "Rohmaße" which means measurement before machining.

"Werkstoff" and "Material" means the same in German. So it makes no sens o type that double?!

I checked my copy of the plan but this part is completly unreadable.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
John
post Sep 28 2007, 04:16 PM
Post #18


member? what's a member?
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,393
Joined: 30-January 04
From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA)
Member No.: 1,615
Region Association: None
QUOTE(michelko @ Sep 27 2007, 11:17 AM) *

Maybe "Material", if not then i would say "Rohmaße" which means measurement before machining.

"Werkstoff" and "Material" means the same in German. So it makes no sens o type that double?!

I checked my copy of the plan but this part is completly unreadable.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif)


That's why I'm asking for help deciphering it. I can't read my copy very well either. A letter here a guess there, but since I can't read, speak or spell in German, it makes it a little tricky for me. The drawing conversion is easier than the title block!

I keep plugging away at it...
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
michelko
post Sep 29 2007, 01:11 AM
Post #19


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 867
Joined: 30-November 03
From: Germany, Lambsheim
Member No.: 1,404
Region Association: None
Hi there,
i had the idea to check the sketch of the oil tank.. i am sure i can read "Rohmaße" there.
Will you offer a copy of the ready sketch to the members?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif)


Attached image(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
michelko
post Sep 29 2007, 01:16 AM
Post #20


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 867
Joined: 30-November 03
From: Germany, Lambsheim
Member No.: 1,404
Region Association: None
Here is a pic of my Oiltank CAD projekt. Sorry to hijack but i think it meets the topic.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif)


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
« Next Oldest · 914World Garage · Next Newest »
 

2 Pages V  1 2 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Display Mode: Standard · Switch to: Linear+ · Switch to: Outline

Track this topic · Email this topic · Print this topic · Subscribe to this forum

- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 17th May 2024 - 11:11 PM
Invision Power Board v9.1.4 © 2024  IPS, Inc.
All rights reserved 914World.com © since 2002
914World.com is the fastest growing online 914 community!
We have it all, classifieds, events, forums, vendors, parts, autocross, racing, technical articles, events calendar, newsletter, restoration, gallery, archives, history and more for your Porsche 914 ...