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| TINCAN914 |
 Oct 1 2007, 11:25 AM
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Summer's Commin...  Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
When ever possible take these things off line. In many cases stuff like this can be resolved without trashing people, especially by those that don't know the facts, or by those who are not directly involved. I have complete faith in Craig, as I have done business with him a number of times, and will continue to do so. He is one of the good guys.
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| shelby/914 |
Oct 1 2007, 11:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 804 Joined: 24-August 05 From: Foxfield, Co Member No.: 4,655 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) 100%
I only have 3 or 4 cars with these type pistons installed to raise the hood or trunk. You can buy replacements in any flaps, so the mounting hardware is the only thing that seems unique to a 914. So WTF (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| neo914-6 |
Oct 1 2007, 11:41 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
I would have never noticed Ed's initials on the instructions from CAMP914 or had known Ed sold gas springs at some time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
The installation documentation is not unique but it does represent Ed's time and "should" have been compensated for it if not rewritten. In reality, who actually paid much attention to the instructions except for the hard measurements? When I purchased them, Craig told me there are many installation threads on the site and that was good enough for me. |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Oct 1 2007, 11:42 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,204 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
this all goes back to my point. With the limited number of 914s out there and the dire need for aftermarket parts as every day the factory discontinues them, why make something that someone else is already making? If anyone out there wants to make something, more power to them, but make something that someone else is not making already. The problem will then be solved! We are all a community here and supplying parts for the 914 goes way beyond competition. (one can only divide the pie so much!)
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| rhodyguy |
Oct 1 2007, 12:04 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,252 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
good points. why should more than one firm sell repro le valances? why bother to make them at all? why offer 2 versions when 1 will do? why not just offer a deluxe version at the economy price? why market driving lights when they are avail from the person who had the brackets made up? why sell after market speaker enclosures when they avail from the person who desgned them? the pies can only be cut into so many pieces.
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| stateofidleness |
Oct 1 2007, 12:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 810 Joined: 1-September 07 From: Canyon Lake, Texas! Member No.: 8,065 Region Association: None |
because "competition" (and competition can simply mean more sources) lowers prices
lower prices = better for us better for us = happy |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Oct 1 2007, 12:19 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(stateofidleness @ Oct 1 2007, 11:15 AM)  because "competition" (and competition can simply mean more sources) lowers prices lower prices = better for us better for us = happy Not always true in this community though. Many of the people here want to make things that they will benefit themselves and in return they sell it to others as they now know what to do. They generally aren't making much of a profit anyway. |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Oct 1 2007, 12:52 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,860 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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My point is you don't take someone else's work and sell it as yours.
If you are going to rip someone else's "non-patented" product, fine I don't have a problem with that. It happens all the time. OK, I'd be the first to agree that no one's going to get rich off this stuff. So why would anyone would go through the trouble, and not at least make your own freakin' instructions is beyond me. Calling your knock-off "the original" and selling the installation instructions written by someone else as your own, is just plain wrong. If anyone here took the time to write a technical article, with photos, etc, is it OK if I call it my work? I think not. As far as taking this offline, c'mon this is the information age, we as a community shouldn't accept practices like this. If you are going to make claims and tout your product, you shouldn't have questions/issues of this nature. Dino, when has my credibility ever been in question? Please elaborate, I'd be the first who'd like to know. |
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| Aaron Cox |
Oct 1 2007, 01:06 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,542 Joined: 1-February 03 From: Corona, CA Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
ok... things have been worked out.
the following is just my PERSONAL opinion, and does not neccesarily reflect that of 914world.com admins etc. My question is, why didnt the 2 involved parties get in contact with each other? did it really need other people bringing the case to the people? When i have a problem, i try and work it out with the other party, i tend to not let my friends express how *I* feel. |
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| SLITS |
Oct 1 2007, 01:14 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
Since everyone is piss and vinegar over this shit ..... are you going to out this guy too? Or is this Ed?
eBay Shock Kit from Michigan |
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| Lavanaut |
Oct 1 2007, 01:16 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Oct 1 2007, 12:06 PM) My question is, why didnt the 2 involved parties get in contact with each other? did it really need other people bringing the case to the people? When i have a problem, i try and work it out with the other party, i tend to not let my friends express how *I* feel. Amen! |
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| Lavanaut |
Oct 1 2007, 01:20 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
...and beyond that, i think it's BS when someone gets on this forum (or any forum, 914 or not) and says, "I know a nasty secret about one of your friends, should I tell you?". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Passive/agressive BS. Once you've said that, you've already said enough. Just come out with it or don't post in the first place!
Back to minding my own business... (sorry for b2b posts) |
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| stateofidleness |
Oct 1 2007, 01:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 810 Joined: 1-September 07 From: Canyon Lake, Texas! Member No.: 8,065 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Blood red 914-6gt @ Oct 1 2007, 01:19 PM) QUOTE(stateofidleness @ Oct 1 2007, 11:15 AM) because "competition" (and competition can simply mean more sources) lowers prices lower prices = better for us better for us = happy Not always true in this community though. Many of the people here want to make things that they will benefit themselves and in return they sell it to others as they now know what to do. They generally aren't making much of a profit anyway. oh agreed! but just in general that rule applies.. it was in reference to rhodyguy semi OT but oddly OnT... do these kits work good or what? i hate that heavy ass rear trunk lid... is it worth "modifying" with drill holes to install this kit? |
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| SLITS |
Oct 1 2007, 01:31 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
They work just great .... no matter where you get them.
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| cooltimes |
Oct 1 2007, 01:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,508 Joined: 18-May 04 Member No.: 2,081 Region Association: None |
I sure am puzzled by the way some, even power posters, who want to keep open mind 914 chit chat suppressed YET when anyone should see someone with an ad while surfing the internet, it gets a pop up here for dissing as a direct subject without any problems about protocol, discretion or why they are selling whatever and probably the one getting dissed will never know it happened.
This occurs so frequently about those selling anything, ANYWHERE. Many of these same shoosher's care nothing about the stranger's or even another list user who may post very few times, yet slammers are smacking on the credibility of those whose ad is getting knocked around like it does. Dr. knows that feeling. Sure is puzzling yet I think it will keep being the same until all 914's dissolves. Mike Cooley |
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| Brian Mifsud |
Oct 1 2007, 02:35 PM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
I wonder if this would have been resolved if things had all happened "offline". Not to diss any of the parties involved, it looks like they worked it out in a reasonable manner.
I believe this "community" has a self-policing aspect to it that seems to have worked in this case. People who like to use this resource have a vested interest in "behaving". I'm glad it's working and speaks of the integrity of this community. Thanks All |
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| xperu |
Oct 1 2007, 02:49 PM
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TEXAS Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 13-June 06 From: League City Texas Member No.: 6,213 Region Association: None
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OT a little. I honestly do not know how thing work or how to go about it with the Admin, but what do you do when you purchase something on the parts board and you don't receive the item you paid for. I have contacted the individual three time over the past couple of months and he has responded twice by stating he would send the item, I finally asked for the money back with no responce yet. The amount will not break me, but $150 is $150. I beleive my feelings are hurt or I am disappointed about the matter and mad. It's one thing to have an issue with a vendor; it happens. But in the spirit of the forum and the members I'm steamed. I have tried to give it as much time as I think is necessary to resolve the payment issue, do I just walk away and chalk it up to a life experience. I really like the forum and have benifited from it a great deal, I have also bought and sold on the parts board. I really don't want to cast any bad light on the forum, because I enjoy the site very much. Any suggestions. Thanks Mike
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| rmital |
Oct 1 2007, 03:04 PM
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Northeast optimist Group: Members Posts: 1,954 Joined: 12-December 05 From: Park Ridge, NJ Member No.: 5,268 |
QUOTE(xperu @ Oct 1 2007, 04:49 PM) ....I finally asked for the money back with no responce yet. The amount will not break me, but $150 is $150.... I could always use a $150...but I got 2 kids, 2 dogs and a wife....yahoo! I just like to deal with members that have some time around the board. If they had a dozen posts outside of the classifieds, I'd usually pass if it was more money than I'd like to lose. Mike..hope you get your $$ back or at least the part. (what was the part?..might have something laying around) |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Oct 1 2007, 03:07 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Hey Mike
I would say just be patient, and keep bothering the guy until you get what is owed. Many of us here are good people that will give stuff away, some will sell it for little, and some are a$$es. It's just dealing with people. Just because they own a 914 doesn't make them a great person. However, I would hope that this guy will make right. The majority of the people on here are good to deal with, but as they say "one bad apple spoils the bunch." Good luck. |
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