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post Jun 18 2016, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Nov 3 2007, 07:06 PM) *

Mocked up the inner and outer firewalls to see how everything fits. No welds just loose.



Any words of wisdom when it comes to installing the complete lower engine side firewall still having both heater tubes in place. Seems like the standard practice is cutting it in half. But I was hoping there is a more sanitary approach. The tubes really hinder your ability to get it into place.

My first thought is to make some cuts in the flange so I have the ability to bend the field portion. ????
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post Jun 18 2016, 11:42 AM
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It takes some jockeying to get it in with the air tubes not helping. I've had mine in and out for fitting of other pieces. Oddly it sometimes doesn't want to go in after it went in before.

To make matters even more jungle jimish the clutch and throttle conduits installed fight me all the way. I welded my PMS mount to the bulkhead out of the car which makes it impossible to bow the panel for insertion.


So you ask is there a way? For me the inner reinforcement goes last. Its pre fitted. I usually start the lower firewall in a semi tipped horizontal position (like a drawer and then bring it down like a garage door). You can tweek the sides where it meets the longs by bending the ears a bit vertically just inboard of the air tube exits. Then I insert the inner reinforcement which is a pain to get it under the tunnel lips.
Push everything forward.

I would pre fit everything a few times, trace any marks where you want to pre punch any holes for the welds, grind any weld landing zones clean at mating points. Self tapping screws secure the fit up.

There will be blood!

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post Jan 16 2017, 08:35 PM
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Hi Jeff. In post #191 (linked below) you show your repair to the outer right wheelhouse. Newbie question: In places you have clecos on the original wheelhouse. So, did you leave little tabs on the repair piece and flange them so they'd tuck under the original wheelhouse, then drill the 1/8" hole through both for the cleco?

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=1001455
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post Jan 17 2017, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Jan 16 2017, 06:35 PM) *

Hi Jeff. In post #191 (linked below) you show your repair to the outer right wheelhouse. Newbie question: In places you have clecos on the original wheelhouse. So, did you leave little tabs on the repair piece and flange them so they'd tuck under the original wheelhouse, then drill the 1/8" hole through both for the cleco?

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=1001455


The repair panel was left a little large since I don't care to butt weld aprons or wheel houses. Pretty thin metal in those areas around the height of the battery tray so a little extra as a backer serves well to burn into. I used a small bead on on both sides instead of one fat hot bead since its visible from both sides.. The tail end of the repair panel was a butt weld to the wheelhouse. Both the panel removed and the repair panel have two larges hole in them for alignment of the outer console. The repair panel didn't overlay the old panel perfectly so the clecos were used to position it until I was satisfied where its permanent home would be versus having to use self tapping screws in, out, in out, in out. Just saved time in the fit up.
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That's very helpful, thanks Jeff.
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post Feb 24 2017, 05:55 PM
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Enjoy!

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post Feb 24 2017, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Feb 24 2017, 03:55 PM) *


That was fun! That road surface looks really rough. Was it that way back in the day?

Are you still working on the 914?
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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Feb 24 2017, 04:42 PM) *

QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Feb 24 2017, 03:55 PM) *

Enjoy!



That was fun! That road surface looks really rough. Was it that way back in the day?

Are you still working on the 914?


Its been paved completely from the 101 fwy to Encino Hills Drive once in my lifetime. Its been patched and paved in sections depending on which celebrity cries the loudest or if a washout occurs. Its always been pretty rough. Pot holes are good for the reflexes.

Yup still working on the 914 as much as I can. Life happens and somethings take a back seat.
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post Mar 20 2017, 08:41 AM
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Ran into Aaron Schwartzbart. Trailer got a flat tire on his way home from the track. Interesting guy: ex rocket scientist turned pastor. Does a great job of getting guys off of street racing and onto the track.

Nice car with a 383 stroker and a 930 trans. There is a YouTube video of this car doing a 180mph dyno pull.


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Beautiful car !!
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Interesting rear wing location. I understand it's critical to get the wing up high. This one's mounted farther forward than most I've seen.
I'm not smart enough to know anything but I wonder how that might impact aero.
Farther back = more leverage?

Either way, I like the aesthetic. Great looking car (it's giving me some ideas for mine!)
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My guess is that the location is above the suspension/tire contact patch.
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post Mar 20 2017, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(Tbrown4x4 @ Mar 20 2017, 09:13 AM) *

My guess is that the location is above the suspension/tire contact patch.


Yep, I get that. I was just wondering:
if you put 10 lbs (of force) directly above the contact patch, you'd see 10 additional lbs at the contact patch (less whatever % transfers to the front axle line). But if you put 10 lbs at the end of the trunk, would that give you more at the contact patch?
I'm sure there are formulas for this sort of thing.

Way off topic, sorry... back to your regularly scheduled awsomeness of Jeff's work!
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QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Mar 20 2017, 07:41 AM) *

Ran into Aaron Schwartzbart. Trailer got a flat tire on his way home from the track. Interesting guy: ex rocket scientist turned pastor. Does a great job of getting guys off of street racing and onto the track.

Nice car with a 383 stroker and a 930 trans. There is a YouTube video of this car doing a 180mph dyno pull.


Surely a Pastor that send or share the bible verse! John 3:16. God Bless you!
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