Oil strainer, Which is the preferred crush ring? |
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Oil strainer, Which is the preferred crush ring? |
Pat Garvey |
Oct 22 2007, 09:26 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Just pulled my oil strainer for the first time in about 15 years. I change my oil 3 times a year, so didn't expect any surprises - none found, just about 1/8 inch of sludge & nothing on the screen.
During the 15+ years on the 914, there were no oil leaks from the anywhere aroung the strainer, so I'm asking for opinions on the preferred crush ring - aluminum (which was on mine), or copper? Just curious as to the potential bias here. BTW, stripped & refinished the lower plate with Krylon "semi-flat" paint. Nice stuff, but it's a little too glossy. Any ideas on dulling the finish? Pat Yeah, I know, this is non-critical stuff to you, but serious to me. |
BMartin914 |
Oct 22 2007, 09:28 PM
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The sump plate kit (2 gaskets and a copper crush washer) is what you need.
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type47 |
Oct 22 2007, 09:32 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
at the risk of rath from the Cap'n (and everybody else), why not reuse your old crush ring? (yea, i know it's a 5 cent part)
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rmital |
Oct 23 2007, 09:53 AM
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Northeast optimist Group: Members Posts: 1,947 Joined: 12-December 05 From: Park Ridge, NJ Member No.: 5,268 |
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Cap'n Krusty |
Oct 23 2007, 10:57 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Copper, aluminum, whatever comes with the kit. BTW, the kits used to come with 2 per kit, now only one, and the gaskets are kinda cheesy. Not the thick ones that come in the overhaul set. Reuse the crush washer? Whaddya, nuts? Cheap is one thing, this is beyond the pale ......................
The Cap'n |
anderssj |
Oct 23 2007, 03:27 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,656 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
and which way does the seam in the crush ring face? Up (towards engine case), or down (towards bolt shoulder)? Inquiring minds want to know . . . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Cap'n Krusty |
Oct 23 2007, 03:33 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
and which way does the seam in the crush ring face? Up (towards engine case), or down (towards bolt shoulder)? Inquiring minds want to know . . . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ALWAYS towards the head of the nut (or bolt, as it's sometimes called). This is especially true of the drain plug and the taco plate bolts, as it lessens the chances of the seal ring material getting in the threads of the fastener. The Cap'n |
gary gartner |
Oct 23 2007, 03:44 PM
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i know more than a newbie---way less than a guru Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 16-December 04 From: Valencia, Ca Member No.: 3,294 Region Association: Southern California |
Ah, s**t:stromberg: , Cap'n now I gotta go find the thread that tells me WTF "beyond the pale" means Gary (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
Pat Garvey |
Oct 23 2007, 06:26 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Copper, aluminum, whatever comes with the kit. BTW, the kits used to come with 2 per kit, now only one, and the gaskets are kinda cheesy. Not the thick ones that come in the overhaul set. Reuse the crush washer? Whaddya, nuts? Cheap is one thing, this is beyond the pale ...................... The Cap'n Cap'n Got my kit from AA - had the nice thick gaskets & both rings. Decided to use the aluminulium (I like that term) ring, becasue the last one never gave up. Doesn't work, I'll use the copper, or save it till next time. Now, have one final minor oil leak (any oil leak drives be buggy). Taco plate. Have a new seal for it, but how much effort is required to pull it off after the bolts are undone? Figured I'd use some sorta hook. And, I can't find the torque setting for the bolts, but figure they're low too. Any advice? Pat |
orthobiz |
Oct 23 2007, 07:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
ummm
what's the taco plate? (typed at a whisper lest my ignorance doth show itself) Paul |
Pat Garvey |
Oct 23 2007, 07:30 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
ummm what's the taco plate? (typed at a whisper lest my ignorance doth show itself) Paul Biz, Read my byline - I'm about as ignorant as can be. Had to ask Andy to explain this term about a year ago. Part of the learning process. The taco plate (as it has been dubbed) is a plate on the crankcase - drivers' side, about 3 inches west & 2 inches north of the oil strainer. On cars that have them, it's modfied for the oil temp sensor for an oil temp guage. Mine is a blank, because '72's didn't have the center console with the oil temp guage. The seal is 35 years old in mine & it's weeping - maybe a drop a month, but that's too much for me. Have a new neoprene seal but not certain of the best method for removal & re-insertion. The early plates are flat, held on by 2 (I think) 10 mm hex heads. Later ones, probably yours, have a temp senser mounted in them, so they aren't flat. Pat |
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