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> Tergal 914-6 GT - a clone for sale
Gustl
post Nov 17 2007, 12:28 PM
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About 2 weeks ago I was offered a "914-6 GT". Well, I know that I can't afford a geniune GT, but I was interested and asked for more infos.
This is what I've got:

It's a clone of the well known Tergal 914-6 GT, that raced the '71 Monte Carlo.
The base car was a 1972 914 1.7 Liter which got a 2.4 Liter 911 T engine and the break system of a 911 RS installed.

The car is located in Spain, Europe ... asking price is EUR 45,000 (currently about US$ 65,500)

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post Nov 17 2007, 12:29 PM
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post Nov 17 2007, 12:31 PM
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here's a historic photo of the original car


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post Nov 17 2007, 12:39 PM
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the original car is located in spain too

this is how it looks today ...



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post Nov 17 2007, 02:40 PM
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A bit too much...

Wasn't there some controversy over the build date on the original car? Seems to me that article had a steering column ignition shown etc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Nov 17 2007, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Nov 17 2007, 09:40 PM) *
Wasn't there some controversy over the build date on the original car? Seems to me that article had a steering column ignition shown etc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

the original car has a 914.0.43.xxxx VIN - but it's very likely that sometimes it got a wrong (late) steering column. It's not clear if this was a result of a repair during it's race life - or a mistake during the restoration ...

the clone car has a 47.2.29.xxxxx VIN
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post Nov 17 2007, 05:10 PM
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where in spain? -JON
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post Nov 18 2007, 12:13 AM
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E-17230 Palamos

I've no idea where exactly in Spain this is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Nov 18 2007, 04:45 AM
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It's a nice looking car, do you think the €45/$65/£30k price is a good one? How accurate is the replication of a GT?
I'd have to re-route the oil-cooler hoses better than running through the cabin along the passenger long.
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post Nov 18 2007, 04:57 AM
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That car is awesome!! But seems like a lot of money for a non original 914-6. Still it would probably cost that much to restore and build your 4 cylinder 914 into something as beautiful as that car.
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post Nov 18 2007, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE(thesey914 @ Nov 18 2007, 11:45 AM) *
It's a nice looking car, do you think the €45/$65/£30k price is a good one? How accurate is the replication of a GT?

I don't know much more about this one, can't say how accurate the clone is done.
I have my doubts that this car has really expensive GT-parts on it - but this is just my opinion, I don't know it.

I don't want to offend anybody, but in my eyes it's nonsens to invest that much money in a conversion and then try to sell it. If he would keep it for his pleasure/enjoyment, that would be another piont. But a conversion will always be a conversion - hardly anybody will spend that much money for a non-original car.
It would be another thing if the car is a real /6 ...

just my 2 cent


anyhow - I like the paint sceme of the car, it's really good looking

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post Nov 18 2007, 06:40 AM
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Agreed Gustl, It would need a lot of 'factory parts' fitted to command this price. But don't forget the 916 started as a humble 47#### chassis number
-so you're not going to buy it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 18 2007, 06:41 AM
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where in spain? -JON

played a little with the routing program ...



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post Nov 18 2007, 06:43 AM
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-so you're not going to buy it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

no way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 18 2007, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(thesey914 @ Nov 18 2007, 04:40 AM) *

But don't forget the 916 started as a humble 47#### chassis number

I disagree James. The 916 has its own series of VIN's, and the body numbers are very late 1971 914/6, perhaps the last from that production run. There is nothing there to suggest 914/4 involvement.

9142330011 1310433
9142330012 1310437
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post Nov 18 2007, 09:58 AM
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I don't want to offend anybody, but in my eyes it's nonsens to invest that much money in a conversion and then try to sell it.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) While I would stand a chance at being offended because I'm attempting to replicate (as close as possible on a 74 chassis) a GT. If I were to ever sell it, the price would be in reality land with the rest of the standard 914-4/6 conversions out there... and that's nowhere near $65k. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That car is over priced.
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post Nov 18 2007, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(davep @ Nov 18 2007, 02:38 PM) *

The 916 has its own series of VIN's, and the body numbers are very late 1971 914/6...


You'll know more than me, I thought George Hussy wrote about his 916 in an old catalogue that he thought, or found evidence, that the factory pulled a 914 chassis off the track for these prototypes rather than use a 914-6 chassis.
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post Nov 18 2007, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(thesey914 @ Nov 18 2007, 06:11 PM) *
QUOTE(davep @ Nov 18 2007, 02:38 PM) *
The 916 has its own series of VIN's, and the body numbers are very late 1971 914/6...

You'll know more than me, I thought George Hussy wrote about his 916 in an old catalogue that he thought, or found evidence, that the factory pulled a 914 chassis off the track for these prototypes rather than use a 914-6 chassis.

I know George told us this story on this board, but there's no proof yet ...

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post Nov 18 2007, 12:17 PM
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Yes, I read that years ago as well. I even asked, on this site, what evidence he found that led him to that supposition. I don't recall an answer at that time.

However as I showed above, they do have 914/6 series body numbers, and very late 1971 series at that. We know that the 914/6 was substantially revised for 1972 with many more 914/4 features. The body numbers for 1972 MY were in the 132xxxx series. So as far as I am concerned the 916 got true 914/6 bodies. Now it is possible that some parts of those bodies had to be sourced from the 914/4 parts bins and reworked to use on the 914/6 bodies.
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post Nov 18 2007, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(davep @ Nov 18 2007, 10:17 AM) *

Yes, I read that years ago as well. I even asked, on this site, what evidence he found that led him to that supposition. I don't recall an answer at that time.


yes, he did answer that question.

the car had originally /4 engine mounts that were removed when the chassis was used to make the 916 ...
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