 Decision to make - "4" or "6" |
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| Jake Raby |
 Dec 11 2007, 08:16 AM
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Engine Surgeon  Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States  |
QUOTE(LarryR @ Dec 10 2007, 10:11 PM)  QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Dec 10 2007, 07:39 PM) Great choice.. I am working on the finalities of the 2008-2009 engine kit program as we speak.. You'll like what we have cooked up! More power and less cost with some kits as much as 600 bucks LESS than last year! WOHOO!!! sounds good. I will have to go back to your site to check out the new prices. They will be up, along with detailed presentations by the time we close down for our Christmas break... It is taking tons of time to get all the descriptions changed, presentations made and items functioning in the store. I update the kit program every two years, add new combos and revitalize the old ones and it SUCKS when I have to do it! |
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| HAM Inc |
Dec 11 2007, 08:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-July 06 From: Watkinsville,GA Member No.: 6,499 Region Association: None |
The last two years have seen some incredible advancements. More than the previous two years. I imagine that adds quite a bit of time to the catalog update process!
I'm looking forward to seeing the finished site. |
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| Jake Raby |
Dec 11 2007, 04:34 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Yep.. It took me all day just to finish the 2056cc offering details!
After this there won't be many questions to answer! 2008 is the year of application, we'll only be developing the Porkies heads and finishing up the roller cams while spending a ton of time on the Boxster program... |
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| Randal |
Feb 21 2008, 09:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(jhadler @ Nov 26 2007, 01:55 PM) I think it really depends on what you want to do with the car. You are mentioning things like "track" in your listing. So I take it you intend for the car to see track time. Will it be strictly DE's or do you plan on competition (autox or otherwise)? If competition with this car is in your future, read the rules carefully before buying. In general a car with a 3.0L six transplant will find itself classed in with the trailer-riding-fire-breathing-monsters, and you'll find yourself outclassed with a street car. So, rear the rules for whatever club you plan on driving in. -Josh2 Yup. If you want to compete on a national autoxing level then go with a big 4. A 6 on the track is wonderful, although I can't wait to take "222" out there to see how it does against our 2.7- 6. |
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| J P Stein |
Feb 22 2008, 07:12 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Randal @ Feb 21 2008, 07:23 PM) Yup. If you want to compete on a national autoxing level then go with a big 4. If you're talking SCCA "national autoxing level", you can be the first in recent memory. Big fours land in the big dog classing also. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| J P Stein |
Feb 22 2008, 07:13 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
oops
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| Slider |
Feb 22 2008, 06:50 PM
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Problems are like cockroaches you find 1 and theres a 100 more Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Fort Collins Colorado Member No.: 7,591 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It is amazing how much the type4's have advanced in the last 10 years i dont know Jake directly but he has spent numerous hours with my brother on the phone or with email over the last 10 years. and i have learned alot about the motors between him and Jake. I will have a Raby motor in my 72 one day. the sixes are great too. i like the t4 because its always the underdog its the motor that goes against to others. i remember telling my brother 15 years ago that i wanted to hot rod a type 4 motor and he thought i was crazy. he was snowballed with the t1 (VW Scene)
A Raby 6..??? sounds good to me.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Dec 11 2007, 03:34 PM) Yep.. It took me all day just to finish the 2056cc offering details! After this there won't be many questions to answer! 2008 is the year of application, we'll only be developing the Porkies heads and finishing up the roller cams while spending a ton of time on the Boxster program... |
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| Jake Raby |
Feb 23 2008, 11:49 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
I did this on Thursday.
 Pump gas, TIV non aftermarket head castings twin plugged with LE 225 treatment. The intake ports are NOT WELDED!! The engine ran for 3 days on 4 gallons of fuel in the dyno cell while I searched for the proper tune.. It had BSFC numbers as low as a 2270 engine and wouldn't get to 350F head temp no matter how hard I tried. It idles at 700 RPM smoother than stock and doesn't need more than 5,500 RPM to make it's power. Yeah, we have advanced to the next level.... Again. The same base engine made only 235 HP with big aftermarket single plug heads in 2005 with 2.5mm MORE bore and 80 CFM more port flow and the SAME cam.. Bigger is not better- |
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| JPB |
Feb 23 2008, 12:21 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
I know of one local bro who hates it when Raby engined cars pass his 3.2L on the track. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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| Jake Raby |
Feb 23 2008, 01:06 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(JPB @ Feb 23 2008, 11:21 AM) I know of one local bro who hates it when Raby engined cars pass his 3.2L on the track. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Thats the whole reason why I do the things I do! More with less! |
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| grantsfo |
Feb 23 2008, 01:21 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
In my opinion six is best choice as there are still hundreds of well repected suppliers and shops supporting the Porsche Six. Big VW T4 and youre stuck with what? One or two suppliers? Thats a problem in my book when you talking about a track motor. Porsche pedigree six is far more reliable and better supported than a big VW T4 for track use. The six is still actively raced very competitively. Aside from FP 1.8 liter VW T4's (throw away motors) I havent seen too many Big VW T4's successfully campaigned in a real race series. There might be a handful of examples. Track driving/racing is more than a silly dyno sheets and HP/liter.
Big T4 is still pretty much a special application motor - decent for AX and bragging rights on the street. If your gig is all about showing people what a bad ass T4 you have by all means go for a Big VW T4. If you want a practical track car motor that will be very reliable and has tons of support go with a six. Going with a six over a big T4 was one of the best decisions I have made for a track car. Nice thing about more 6 cylinder conversions being done is that aftermarket support for 914-6 actually becomes viable. I have seen some great stuff come out over the past few years due to all the conversions that are happening. I do like Jakes big VW motors. Eventually I can see having a limited use street car with a big VW motor with lots of chrome and shiny stuff that would be cool. JP, You made me laugh with that dyno post! I'm sure that my 2.5 six on Jakes engine dyno would be close to your motor. What? ...Probably about 275 HP? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
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| Jake Raby |
Feb 23 2008, 02:42 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Grant,
Glad to see you are back from Hibernation. We all thought you had been subject to an alien abduction. This post has been edited by Jake Raby: Feb 23 2008, 02:47 PM |
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| So.Cal.914 |
Feb 23 2008, 05:41 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
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| degreeoff |
Feb 23 2008, 06:23 PM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(So.Cal.914 @ Feb 23 2008, 03:41 PM) AW come on man! There should be at least 2 in there!! Just Kidding Jake you do great work...I'd love to spar with one of your engines on a track. |
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