 bulkhead vs. quick six mount for conversion, Pros and cons of each? |
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| jaybird840 |
 Jan 17 2008, 09:11 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 163 Joined: 27-September 06 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 6,927 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
Hi All,
I'm starting to source the parts for putting a 2.7 into my teener. I'd like to hear the pros and cons of both the bulkhead and the quick six mount. Thanks! --jaybird |
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| dflesburg |
Jan 17 2008, 09:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
We (flesburgs) are all using bulkhead mounts. I am using solid mounts on top of that and love how solid everything is... JMO. (then again, I like it loud and rough) (is that too much info ?) LOL
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| degreeoff |
Jan 17 2008, 09:52 AM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well I have the same setup in the works as my friend above here and I have not HEARD of a bulkhead mount breaking...I HAVE heard about a quick 6 breaking....its not that hard to install with the engine out!
Josh |
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| sww914 |
Jan 17 2008, 09:59 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
Quick six mounts require no welding and they make really good spots to put jackstands when you're pulling the tranny off of the engine.
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| Dave_Darling |
Jan 17 2008, 10:04 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California 
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Quick Six mounts are easy to install, that's about it for them.
For a quality conversion, bulkhead mount all the way. Stronger, better designed, and from what I can tell even better-built than most of the bar-type mounts. --DD |
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| djm914-6 |
Jan 17 2008, 10:35 AM
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Happiness is: Getting on the road Group: Members Posts: 1,864 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Burlington MA Member No.: 248 Region Association: None |
I had a quick six in my car when I bought it. It kept kicking out of gear on hard accelerations. The problem went away with the RJ bulkhead mount. Maybe the problem could have been fixed with new /4 motor mounts too, but I wanted something more solid.
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Jan 17 2008, 12:01 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I still have the bar in mine and I hate it. When you get on it you feel the power going into the bar. Makes me nervous everytime I drive it, but I check it regularly to make sure it's fine. Do it right the first time. Get the bulkhead mount.
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| SirAndy |
Jan 17 2008, 02:09 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Jan 17 2008, 08:04 AM)  Quick Six mounts are easy to install, that's about it for them. For a quality conversion, bulkhead mount all the way. Stronger, better designed, and from what I can tell even better-built than most of the bar-type mounts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Jan 18 2008, 08:45 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,719 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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The quick bars cause more problems than they solve. After installing a 6 in your 914, you won't go back to a four. Get a permanent mount and be done (right) with it.
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| Root_Werks |
Jan 18 2008, 09:09 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I have run the following mounts on converted 914-6's:
Quick six bars ranging from home built units GPR use to sell back in the early 90's to PM tube bar that flexes like crazy to even a 2 piece bar design that was cool. Used and installed the RJ mount, Vellos bulkhead and Maddog bulkhead. Probably 6-7 different mounts and I have learned that any "Quick Six" bar is great to get you going, but nothing to run forever. Best bulkhead mount I have ever used is the one Maddog makes that is a copy of the RJ and Vellos mounts. I only prefer the Maddog over the RJ mount because the Maddog requires that you pull the wirring loom all the way out from the back up to the firewall, mount/weld mount and push it back through the maddog mount. The RJ mount goes OVER the wirring loom. Soooooo, if you weld on your RJ mount and have to pull through wires, you're pretty much screwed. The maddog takes more time to install, but easier to work on the car later if needed. Sort of past my 2 cents I guess, call it a dime. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Jan 19 2008, 08:58 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,719 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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You can still pull the wiring harness through Rich's mount, if you ever need to.
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| SirAndy |
Jan 19 2008, 12:34 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Jan 18 2008, 07:09 AM) The RJ mount goes OVER the wirring loom. Soooooo, if you weld on your RJ mount and have to pull through wires, you're pretty much screwed. what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) there's plenty of room to pull through wires, the channel in the RJ mount is fairly large ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| John |
Jan 19 2008, 12:43 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
I prefer bulkhead mounts. I prefer to fabricate my own.
I have no wiring harness issues. (IMG:http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q202/johnflesburg/EngineMount_02a.jpg) (IMG:http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q202/johnflesburg/EngineMount_01a.jpg) The "Quick Six" bars cantilever the weight of the engine on a bar that is too weak and flexes continuously. |
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| carr914 |
Jan 19 2008, 01:43 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,670 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States  |
The Quick six bars are junk.
The Patrick Chromoly bar is much better (stout), but you still get an oscillation through them in that there is flex. The RJ mount is the only way to go. As said earlier, once you put a six in there, you will NEVER go back, so do it right. T.C. Attached image(s) 
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| BKLA |
Jan 19 2008, 03:12 PM
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Really old member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 14-August 05 From: OR Member No.: 4,590 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 19 2008, 11:43 AM) The Quick six bars are junk. The Patrick Chromoly bar is much better (stout), but you still get an oscillation through them in that there is flex. The RJ mount is the only way to go. As said earlier, once you put a six in there, you will NEVER go back, so do it right. T.C. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I have the PM quicksix in the bluByU (installed the PO), but the race car is getting the RJ mount. The only way to go IMHO! |
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