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charliew
post Mar 4 2008, 03:06 PM
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Ok I apoligize if someone's already covered this.

I am going to use a subie and it has a pwr steering pump so I was wondering if Any one knows what pwr steering rack might fit easily in the 914, maybe a later porsche or even a domestic small car. I am going to try to use 8x18 wheels on the front and I thought it might be easier to handle at slow speeds with pwr steering.
Just steer me to a link and I will do the studying, Thanks

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post Mar 4 2008, 03:17 PM
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post Mar 4 2008, 03:52 PM
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post Mar 4 2008, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(charliew @ Mar 4 2008, 01:06 PM) *

I am going to use a subie and it has a pwr steering pump so I was wondering if Any one knows what pwr steering rack might fit easily in the 914, maybe a later porsche or even a domestic small car. I am going to try to use 8x18 wheels on the front and I thought it might be easier to handle at slow speeds with pwr steering.


later model 911 units look like they might fit. if i recall right, bill pickering (nine14cats) was looking into this for his "beast" at one point.
do a search here, it might come up with something ...

as for me, i've been running 9" racing slicks and 1 1/2" spacers without any steering trouble ...
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post Mar 4 2008, 05:03 PM
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I think Drivability was also looking into it.
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post Mar 5 2008, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(Joe Ricard @ Mar 4 2008, 03:17 PM) *

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that's funny in so many ways!
It'd be funnier if you could use a power rack for more than just lower body and forearm work.

sorry....obligatory weight lifter comments...

OH, 18'' rims do not belong on a 30+ year old car. Chip Foose does this to chargers with 20's and 22's and it just looks tacky. Dont donk a 914 please
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post Mar 5 2008, 08:59 AM
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Dont "donk" a 914. Lol. Donk. That's my new general use word-of-they day.

Drive-ability decided on an MR2 all electric system, even though his car is V8 powered. A solution that I was trying to push on him, at the time, was the NSX power steering. It's also all-electric, but has a variable rate rack, making for some wicked quick hard turns. You could really get donkin' with an NSX rack.

Now, if you don't mind, I'm about to go donk some racks of my own.
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post Mar 5 2008, 02:18 PM
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what pwr steering rack might fit easily in the 914


Why? 914s don;t need PS. Its a solution to a non-problem.
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post Mar 5 2008, 02:55 PM
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post Mar 5 2008, 03:43 PM
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post Mar 5 2008, 07:36 PM
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post Mar 5 2008, 07:50 PM
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You dont need power steering. Just drive it..

I have 255's on 17's in the front and can turn the wheel just fine, once the car is just slightly moving.
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post Mar 5 2008, 07:57 PM
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post Mar 5 2008, 10:25 PM
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Maybe if he brought out a nice sketch of what he's gonna paint....

I vote the OP needs to post some pics of said 18'' rims. We'll go from there.

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post Mar 5 2008, 10:29 PM
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He can paint what he wants to. Its his canvas...

true, but part of asking is getting other feedback and I agree with others... for an 8" wide wheel I can't imagine why you would need PS other that shear creature comfort. Now, with 10" wide front SLICKS on my race car (and same with the BPR guys), my shoulders are stiff and sore after a track day of hitting corner after corner as fast as possible, which is not what you encounter on the street. I have considered trying to add an aftermarket PS rack and then drive a pump off the transaxle but my motivation isn't quite there yet.

The real issue will be getting a rack that doesn't have crazy bump steer due to rod end pivots being too wide or narrow, getting it to mount in the location the stock rack does, then figuring out how to drive a pump (some have considered the electric pumps). It will take more effort to do all that than the effort to turn the wheel.
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post Mar 6 2008, 06:35 AM
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Seriously you could check your caster.
To much caster will make it real hard to turn. 6 degrees Caster is a good starting point. If you feel the car wandering then put more in.
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post Mar 6 2008, 08:51 PM
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Seriously you could check your caster.
To much caster will make it real hard to turn. 6 degrees Caster is a good starting point. If you feel the car wandering then put more in.

I have been down to around 3.5-4deg on mine (car doesn't wander at all... a lot of American cars you are lucky to get much past 1.5-2deg and they are fine) and still beat me up with the slicks. The scrub is pretty ruthless with the strut front end and big wheels.

For a street driver, I would put the absolute minimum caster you can on the stock car upper mounts (probably no less than 5deg anyway) and that is more than plenty. When I found out these cars spec'd out around 6deg I told them put in the least amount possible even when it was bone stock back in the day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 7 2008, 02:23 AM
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QUOTE(Joe Ricard @ Mar 4 2008, 03:17 PM) *

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that's funny in so many ways!
It'd be funnier if you could use a power rack for more than just lower body and forearm work.

sorry....obligatory weight lifter comments...

OH, 18'' rims do not belong on a 30+ year old car. Chip Foose does this to chargers with 20's and 22's and it just looks tacky. Dont donk a 914 please



You can't DONK a 914

A Donk is a mid 80s (non bathtub) Caprice

15s. 17s, 20s, whatever, if you are running any big rubber, power steering would be nice around town. The challenge is finding a power rack that is short enough.

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QUOTE(purple @ Mar 5 2008, 06:27 AM) *

QUOTE(Joe Ricard @ Mar 4 2008, 03:17 PM) *

Gold's Gym comes to mind.

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that's funny in so many ways!
It'd be funnier if you could use a power rack for more than just lower body and forearm work.

sorry....obligatory weight lifter comments...

OH, 18'' rims do not belong on a 30+ year old car. Chip Foose does this to chargers with 20's and 22's and it just looks tacky. Dont donk a 914 please



You can't DONK a 914

A Donk is a mid 80s (non bathtub) Caprice

I cannot recall a 22inch wheel Foose has put on a car.

My 35 Chevy came with 17s from the factory.

18s look "right" on a muscle car era vehicle. A 68 Camaro going from 15s to 18s is like adjusting the proportions with magic.

That is why we have bigger wheels on today's production cars, to adjust the proportion.

15s. 17s, 20s, whatever, if you are running any big rubber, power steering would be nice around town. The challenge is finding a power rack that is short enough.

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Smart Racing Productshas a power steering rack in their catalog.
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