Update on my project, Getting the car ready to install engine |
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Update on my project, Getting the car ready to install engine |
DNHunt |
Mar 15 2008, 09:04 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
This has been a hard project. Switching to SDS injection meant I had to redo the wiring for the FI. I needed more fuel for the larger fuel pump and FI. I needed new filters, anyway Yada, yada, yada. Anyway I'm getting close now so, I thought I would offer up my work to the peanut gallery.
First I put the brain in the car so wiring had to go throughthe firewall. |
Root_Werks |
Mar 15 2008, 09:08 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,319 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I have been waiting for this update to your project! Lots of pictures and progress reports! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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rhodyguy |
Mar 15 2008, 09:13 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,076 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
i'll give you a ring on the way home from silverdale today. maybe stop by if it's not too late or unless you're going dancin'.
k |
DNHunt |
Mar 15 2008, 09:13 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
As I said I had to go through the firewall so, I used an extra conduit from Joney's silver car that Kevin gave me.
The main loom for the car still goes through the original conduit and the FI goes through the new conduit to the left. To the right in the picture you can see some of the fuel line I bent and the pre-filter for the fuel pump. The fuel pump pumps much more than the old stock pump which I think would have come up short. The new system runs 40 psi and I think the stock pump would have struggled with enough volume at that pressure. Bending and flaring the fuel line was a whole weekend. I still need to pressure check it and I'm praying there won't be any leaks. |
Mueller |
Mar 15 2008, 09:18 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Hey Dave !!!
Mind me asking why the switch to the SDS?? MS issues or ??? |
J P Stein |
Mar 15 2008, 09:21 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
No slackin', Dave.
Eventually it's gonna stop rainin' and it'll be time to drive the thing. I recommend a 2 X 4 to beat them wires into submission. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
DNHunt |
Mar 15 2008, 09:21 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
Finding a spot for the fuel filter was a pain. Mallory says there should be a pre and post pump filter. I finally hung it off of the battery tray.
The coil pack and oil breather box are on the rear firewall. |
DNHunt |
Mar 15 2008, 09:27 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
I fabbed up a throttle cabble thingambob the morning.
Wideband O2 and relays are on the firewall behind the driver. I'm glad I don't need to get anything else in the engine compartment. I'm a little more sympathetic towards the engineers that design new cars. There is a bunch of crap. Dave |
DNHunt |
Mar 15 2008, 09:42 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
No dancing tonight Kev. Come on by. It'll be good to see you.
Mike, it's really good to see you posting. I miss your ideas. You know you started me down this slippery slope. To answer your question, yes there were problems with my MS. Most likely it was operator error (undoubtedly my fault) or SISO but, regardless it was a big flop on the dyno at Jake's and is now known as Megapuke. I was made aware that Jake has a handgun that fires 12 gauge which is referred to as "the Judge". I assumed he wanted to use the MS circuit board for target practice but, he may have wanted a bigger target that that could flee the area. That morning was one of the worst mornings of my life and Jake really was patient. After an hour for Jake to cool down and me to think about my options, I decided to switch to SDS for simplicity. It was a great decision. Tuning took about 30 minutes and after that we just exprimented with it. JP, I'm reserving the 2X4 for conditioning the operator. Dave |
McMark |
Mar 15 2008, 09:57 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
That is a stout throttle linkage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Lookin' good Dave!
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DNHunt |
Mar 15 2008, 10:04 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
Mark
It's gonna get drilled but, I'm gonna add some brackets to settle the wiring and I'll mount the idle air valve to it so I'll wait until I see how that lays out first. Dave |
rtalich |
Mar 15 2008, 01:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Bellevue, WA Member No.: 6,913 Region Association: None |
Wideband O2 and relays are on the firewall behind the driver. Dave Good to see you are making progress! Hey, whats that O2 sensor box thingy you have there in the pic? I didn't get one of those with my system (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) -Rob |
rhodyguy |
Mar 16 2008, 08:04 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,076 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
your engine bay is certainly going to have a bunch of stuff in it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) with all that hp and tq, why do you want to bother with drilling a bunch of holes in the cable holder just to save a few ounces? looks like you'll be terrorizing the greater gh area in short order. no street will be safe.
k |
effutuo101 |
Mar 16 2008, 11:30 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
You are making great progress Dave! Soon all of your previous problems will be but a faint memeory. See you soon.
Chris |
914werke |
Mar 16 2008, 12:01 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,056 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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akellym |
Mar 16 2008, 12:08 PM
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Eyes Of The Deep Battle Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 25-July 04 From: Annandale, MN Member No.: 2,395 Region Association: Northstar Region |
As I said I had to go through the firewall so, I used an extra conduit from Joney's silver car that Kevin gave me. The main loom for the car still goes through the original conduit and the FI goes through the new conduit to the left. To the right in the picture you can see some of the fuel line I bent and the pre-filter for the fuel pump. The fuel pump pumps much more than the old stock pump which I think would have come up short. The new system runs 40 psi and I think the stock pump would have struggled with enough volume at that pressure. Bending and flaring the fuel line was a whole weekend. I still need to pressure check it and I'm praying there won't be any leaks. Had any trouble with you fuel pump on it side? I have that same pump. My started running hot after the first season. I found out later that those pump MUST sit upright (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) So I'm not using mine anymore, as it won't fit upright where I had it installed. |
rhodyguy |
Mar 16 2008, 12:26 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,076 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
nice headsup kelly. back to the rethink board dave. i can see it now, pump craps out, fuel system goes lean, oops...
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Mark Henry |
Mar 16 2008, 04:41 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Nice mess of wires isn't it...LOL!
Makes me want to get mine going again this year! |
Mark Henry |
Mar 16 2008, 04:52 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
OK looking at your coil pack mounting...don't like it. The coil pack is not waterproof, at least flip it around the other way so that the leads point downwards.
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DNHunt |
Mar 16 2008, 04:56 PM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
Here's the final on the on the throttle setup. A lot lighter.
Rob, the WBO2 I have has a stand alone controller. I know the Innovate LC-1 has ithe controller in the cable. Kelly, I checked with them. Apparently, newer pumps are OK on their sides. Ya lots of wires. Not as many as MS though. Dave |
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