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| 914Sixer |
 Apr 17 2008, 04:45 PM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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I have made contact with an individual that is supposed to have a punch set up to replicate the door jam sticker vin stamp. I have two stickers comming from AutoAtlanta (thanks George) to see if this is a viable option to replace those missing or damaged stickers. More details as things evolve.
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| G e o r g e |
Apr 17 2008, 05:15 PM
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Dr Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None
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| SirAndy |
Apr 17 2008, 05:28 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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| 7TPorsh |
Apr 17 2008, 05:37 PM
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7T Porsh Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California
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| McMark |
Apr 17 2008, 08:04 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Just to punch the numbers? Or will it make the tamper-proofing circles as well?
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| SirAndy |
Apr 17 2008, 08:12 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 17 2008, 06:04 PM)  Just to punch the numbers? Or will it make the tamper-proofing circles as well? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| Mark Henry |
Apr 17 2008, 08:33 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I thought someone else was thinking of doing this, but stopped when he was told it could be a sick bird....
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| craig downs |
Apr 17 2008, 11:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 25-November 05 From: mira loma ca. Member No.: 5,189 Region Association: Southern California |
I could use one. The last time I painted my car I took it off and now wish I didn't.
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| rjames |
Apr 18 2008, 01:24 AM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,933 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I wire wheeled 1/2 of mine off because I thought there was rust underneath. Turned out it was just the glue and dirt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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| ericread |
Apr 18 2008, 01:27 AM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
Just how legal is this? The manufacturer is responsible for supplying a unique VIN number for each vehicle sold in the U.S. If a replica is created, will a state's DMV or police accept this as the legal requirement? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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| McMark |
Apr 18 2008, 01:58 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Regardless of anything else, this issue, if you're in the unlucky situation to have it questioned by the authorities, will come down to the attitude of the officials involved. Some would let it slide/ignore it/think nothing is wrong. Some would throw the book at you. And if they do throw the book, then a friendly conversation is not going to change it. A LONG legal battle would be necessary to clear it up. And in the mean time, your car will be impounded and even could be crushed.
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| 914Sixer |
Apr 18 2008, 06:58 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region
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I am not going to get involved in the legal issues. I will provide the information of where you can get the sticker punched if they turn out good. YOU will have to purchase the blank door sticker and send it to be made. As an individual, YOU will have to make the decison about any legal ramifications.
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| rick 918-S |
Apr 18 2008, 07:43 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,460 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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First let me say I hate the wireless service at this hotel. I had a big long response typed and the damned connection timed out twice!
This is much to do about nothing. Here's a philosophical question or few. What if you get pulled over without the sticker? How many of you purchased a car with the sticker removed? After a couple paint jobs that sticker is likely gone or painted over. Do you think the police, Highway Patrol or DMV carry a picture book around so they can match it up to 30 year old cars to see if someone put a fake sticker on their car? When your asked for your vin do you look at the door jamb sticker or the stamped, perminent tag on the windsheild pillar? This is a sticker. Now if your talking about cutting chassis numbers out and welding them into another chassis that's a different issue entirely. |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Apr 18 2008, 08:04 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,719 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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If it works out, I've got a car that needs a new one.
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| Zimms |
Apr 18 2008, 08:12 AM
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| dflesburg |
Apr 18 2008, 08:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
LOL...
Most people don't know what the hell my car is.. let alone know anything about it.... |
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| burton73 |
Apr 18 2008, 08:47 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,524 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California
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Rick—I just got to Bangkok and the wireless in the Marriott is fine.
The tamper-proofing circles need to be there or you do not need to do this. It does not look real. It is just a little off. The Black on 911 is not made with tamper-proofing circles but all the pictures of the 6’s show sliver with them. With the car color coming through the VIN it is the final touch to the big buck restoration or paint job. Yes, we have gone over legalities of this before. I have done a lot of die cutting and embossing. The stickers that AA has are made of chrome Mylar and it cuts well but my not emboss great. The die to make the tamper-proofing circles may be big bucks. I did a job a long time ago where a steel rule die was not OK because the detail was too much. I am going to China in a few days and I will ask my engineer. If anyone has a picture showing the tamper-proofing circles it will help me in the next 3 days. Bob |
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| r_towle |
Apr 18 2008, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Apr 18 2008, 09:43 AM) First let me say I hate the wireless service at this hotel. I had a big long response typed and the damned connection timed out twice! This is much to do about nothing. Here's a philosophical question or few. What if you get pulled over without the sticker? How many of you purchased a car with the sticker removed? After a couple paint jobs that sticker is likely gone or painted over. Do you think the police, Highway Patrol or DMV carry a picture book around so they can match it up to 30 year old cars to see if someone put a fake sticker on their car? When your asked for your vin do you look at the door jamb sticker or the stamped, perminent tag on the windsheild pillar? This is a sticker. Now if your talking about cutting chassis numbers out and welding them into another chassis that's a different issue entirely. Do you have a Dell computer??? rich |
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| Gustl |
Apr 18 2008, 10:08 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,504 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Apr 18 2008, 01:43 PM) This is a sticker. Now if your talking about cutting chassis numbers out and welding them into another chassis that's a different issue entirely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) - that's it |
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| VaccaRabite |
Apr 18 2008, 10:11 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Apr 18 2008, 09:43 AM) When your asked for your vin do you look at the door jamb sticker or the stamped, perminent tag on the windsheild pillar? In PA, they check the tag on the windshield against the tag in the door. If the tag in the door was gone, I guess they would use the metal one in the front trunk. But, at least in PA, the tag in the door is used when you title the car in your name. Other then that, I have never seen them get used. Still, the risk, even the tiny risk, of getting in trouble for this would lead me to remove the vin sticker rather then use one that was "new." Zach |
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