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> Side shift swap? 5-lug install, Do I need a bigger master cylinder?
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post Apr 19 2008, 12:21 PM
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I've got a tranny I had to replace the ass end on as the speedo had broken off. It drained most the tranny fluid. Is Swepco 201 good stuff to use? That is what pelican sells. I'd like to find something locally though as I will be doing it today. Anyone have a good recommendation at NAPA or Autozone?

Also is there a drain plug of some kind to drain any lingering oil? How do I refill it? Thanks
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post Apr 19 2008, 12:57 PM
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Jamie the big 17(19?)mm hex plug in the mid-bottom of the case is the drain though you might want to to pull the diff cover and really clean the rest of the nasty stuff that can accumulate/settle at the bottom if the existing lube looks smells real bad.
Haynes calls for SAE 90 so any will do if you need to get in on the road but Swepco is often suggested, it some slippery stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) the little utility pumps from flaps is what I use to refill
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post Apr 19 2008, 01:10 PM
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Any 90wt will work fine. The Swepco 201 seems to keep transaxles alive much longer when subjected to High HP (SBC v8's are my experiance).

Drain plug and fill plug are on the passenger side of the trans. both 17mm Allens. Look on the plate the stub axle comes out.

Be sure to pull the fill plug before the drain plug, so you know you can get lube back in there...

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post Apr 19 2008, 07:10 PM
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Just bought some Redline 90w. I've had good luck with some of there other products. Hopefully it will be okay. Any estimate on how many quarts it will take? Where the hell do I find a 17 or 19mm allen wrench? I've never seen one this size before (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) . I forgot to see if they had one when I went into town earlier.

I spent most of my day screwing around with pulling my front end. Replacing with a 911 front end. Didn't go to bad but I need more parts to do it. Is the 911 steering rack any better than the 914's? Setup seems better but not sure I want to pull the gas tank to swap them out. Unless someone has a trick that doesn't involve that?
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post Apr 19 2008, 07:56 PM
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Where the hell do I find a 17 or 19mm allen wrench?


In my tool box... wanna borrow?

Leave the steering rack as they're the same. Going with 48mm pistons up front? You should probably get a 19mm MC.

http://www.pmbperformance.com/catalog/item...563/4747837.htm
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post Apr 19 2008, 07:57 PM
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SWEPCO is some of the best BTW.
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post Apr 19 2008, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(JRust @ Apr 19 2008, 09:10 PM) *

Is the 911 steering rack any better than the 914's? Setup seems better but not sure I want to pull the gas tank to swap them out. Unless someone has a trick that doesn't involve that?


I believe the 911 used the same steering rack as the 914. When I did my swap, I used the 911 rack since the one on the car had some play in it. Was a direct swap and didn't need to remove the tank. The control stub for the 911 rack was different than the one for the 914 so I had to change that.

The connection of the control stub is in the interior so loosen the bolt and pull the rack out assuming the front suspension crossmember is out. No need to pop the tank. I did a full 911 front end swap in 1 evening: dropped the 914 front, cleaned the tub area with degreaser, changed the MC to 19mm (hardest part of the job), installed the 911 front, connect brakes, bleed, check alignment and drive the next day.
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post Apr 19 2008, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(JRust @ Apr 19 2008, 07:10 PM) *

Where the hell do I find a 17 or 19mm allen wrench?


Or if you want (rather than borrowing one from Eric) Take a long bolt with a 17mm head on it and bend the end. Instant allen wrench.
My dad custom made one for me for my first 914, worked like a charm.
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post Apr 19 2008, 10:47 PM
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Swepco 201 in formulated to work with Porsche syncros....I won't use anything else.
If you could see my syncros & dog teeth after 8-9 years of abuse, neither would you.
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post Apr 20 2008, 12:05 AM
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I didn't even get to doing the rear end today. SO I'll order the Swepco 201 this week. How much does it take?
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post Apr 20 2008, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(JRust @ Apr 19 2008, 11:05 PM) *

I didn't even get to doing the rear end today. SO I'll order the Swepco 201 this week. How much does it take?


Jamie,

Haynes Manual says 2.6 quarts. That should bring it up to the level of the filler plug when the transmission is level. If you stick your finger in the filler hole, you'll feel it (and see on your finger) when you've got enough.

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post Apr 20 2008, 12:24 AM
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Don't put any redline in a 901 trans. It's too slippery for our synchros and it will probably grind gears when it didn't before. Swepco's cheaper and it works better.
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post Apr 20 2008, 01:02 AM
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Too slippery? I just put in Swepco in mine and that is some slippery shit. Looks like it is really good though.... at $70 a gallon it should be (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 20 2008, 03:04 AM
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Swepco. I just switched over to it in my 930 trans a couple weeks ago and won't go to anything else. Heard nothing but good and trans shifts better.

Heard lots-o-bad about Redline stuff when I posted a question asking which one for my 930.
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post Apr 20 2008, 07:08 AM
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Porsche's syncros have that wierdassed brake band with a radiused crown on it.
To do it's job (and not wear the crown flat) it needs lubrication.....but not too much, a certain amount of friction is needed.
The brake band appears to be made of some oddball material..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
Swepco has the combo down, apparently.
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post Apr 20 2008, 09:14 AM
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Just to be clear, the Redline isn't bad, it's just bad for a 901 trans.
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post Apr 20 2008, 09:23 AM
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post Apr 20 2008, 12:21 PM
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Here are a few pics! Kind of at a stand still for now. I'll get back to it after work this week. Basically have the old front end out. It is in good shape.I was surprised to find they put studs in the rotors. SO when I pulled the wheels off their were nuts instead of bolts. I also had trouble getting the tie rod off. Went into town to buy a tool for it. Then it came off no problem.

I'm not sure what size master cylinder is on it. The bottom side has a 14 on it. I don't think this is the stock 17. Where do I find the number that will tell me what it is? I have a few master cylinders in a box somewhere. I have what I think is a 21mm but it doesn't have anywhere close to the same setup as ar as where everything connects.


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post Apr 20 2008, 12:25 PM
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Another couple pics. Good front sway bar setup. The second of my garage overall. I need to get rid of some of these 914's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

I also ordered a gallon of Swepco from the Bird for my tranny. I am swaping to a sideshift also. So I have all new shift bushings going in this week too! I'm a little on the slow side doing everything. No problem I'm just making sure I do it all right. I'm going to order some turbo tie rods too! Funny how you plan on doing one thing & end up doing 10.


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post Apr 20 2008, 12:40 PM
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Jamie,

FYI, about a year ago, I did just about everything you are doing right now (sideshift, rebuild, swepco, bushings) and just so you have something to look forward to, the results will be WELL worth the effort...amazing the difference it makes!

good luck
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