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A Real One For Ya, Straight from the doctor me thinks |
tod914 |
Apr 28 2008, 07:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
VIN: 9140430000 | Get the Vehicle History Report
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byndbad914 |
Apr 28 2008, 07:42 PM
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shoehorn and some butter - it fits Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 23-January 06 From: Broomfield, CO Member No.: 5,463 Region Association: None |
the point everyone is making is the posted VIN is bogus (I wasn't sure but suspected all zeros wasn't right until I simply googled 914-6 serial number and got confirmation).
914043 is the start of a -6 VIN. the zeros after that should be a value for which one it is, so unless this car is the first one ever, and they didn't start with a 1 for the first car, there should be a number like 9140435646 where it is 5646 car built. That VIN is the zero-th car built. The real issue is some people are assuming the car has the VINs removed - I personally haven't seen confirmation if a real VIN exists on the car or not, so it may have VINs where they belong, maybe not. Nor do I care (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) but it is interesting that George hasn't simply posted what the VIN is or if they have been removed. If they are gone, that chassis isn't worth $1 period as you could never register/title or prove the car is okay to do that, even if you put a 1.7L four in it. If they are there, that chassis may definitely be worth $500 or more so someone could cut them out and put in a -4 tub and "restore" their -6 conversion. A '69 Camaro convertible was for sale on eBay awhile back that was 1. cut in half, 2. rusted beyond any real repair, etc. But if you want to go to Goodmark and buy all the body work you could build one almost completely from repair parts and put that VIN on it and title it as a 69 Camaro vert. So it has value to some shiesty bastard. |
SLITS |
Apr 28 2008, 07:46 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
there was a least one car with a 914 1 VIN
914114 Maybe 9140000 is one of the other missing mules. |
Krieger |
Apr 28 2008, 07:48 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,722 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
That original 6 dash frame is prolly worth $300.
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r_towle |
Apr 29 2008, 02:19 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,584 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
I just read the ad.
It says no title or registration. Ok. It does not say not VIN. Rich |
dw914er |
Apr 29 2008, 05:01 PM
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Planning Cities Group: Members Posts: 2,364 Joined: 1-March 08 From: Yucaipa, CA Member No.: 8,763 Region Association: Southern California |
I just read the ad. It says no title or registration. Ok. It does not say not VIN. Rich yea, but the posted vin seems incorrect i think that is the major issue so basically, you have little/no documentation for the car, which means its basically only good for scrap metal. if it had the vin on it, you could at least swap it out, or rebuild that car and gain the extra value. |
r_towle |
Apr 29 2008, 05:37 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,584 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
I suppose if I wanted the car, I would call George and ask him if it has a VIN and what that number was.
No title and no reg is not really an issue. Swapping tags is an issue. If the tub has all the tags, riveted tags and the body sections with imprinted serial number, it should not be an issue. Rich |
tod914 |
Apr 29 2008, 05:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Maybe they just needed to post a vin to advertise the car. No surprises, pictures posted show you what your bidding on. |
rwjames |
Apr 29 2008, 06:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 326 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Montgomery, AL Member No.: 6,136 Region Association: South East States |
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1970 Neun vierzehn |
Apr 30 2008, 01:07 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
Study all those pics and look for all the VIN/Karmann/build tags where they should be and "are", and "are not". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
736conver |
Apr 30 2008, 01:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None |
Just read the auction details. This was added yesterday.
As previously stated in the description this is just a 914-6 body shell, it does not have numbers nor a title. However if you decide to purchase this vehicle, we do have a set of numbers and a good Georgia title for six number 9140430023 that we crushed years and years ago. The high bidder can buy this title and number set for an additional $500.00 Is this legal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
rhodyguy |
Apr 30 2008, 01:33 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,082 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
i guess anything goes in georgia? stop the madness.
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dw914er |
Apr 30 2008, 01:33 PM
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Planning Cities Group: Members Posts: 2,364 Joined: 1-March 08 From: Yucaipa, CA Member No.: 8,763 Region Association: Southern California |
Just read the auction details. This was added yesterday. As previously stated in the description this is just a 914-6 body shell, it does not have numbers nor a title. However if you decide to purchase this vehicle, we do have a set of numbers and a good Georgia title for six number 9140430023 that we crushed years and years ago. The high bidder can buy this title and number set for an additional $500.00 Is this legal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) i dont think so, but i would do it if i was looking for another project |
championgt1 |
Apr 30 2008, 01:48 PM
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Don't embarrass me Filmore! Group: Members Posts: 2,680 Joined: 3-January 07 From: Tacoma, Washington Member No.: 7,420 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Just read the auction details. This was added yesterday. As previously stated in the description this is just a 914-6 body shell, it does not have numbers nor a title. However if you decide to purchase this vehicle, we do have a set of numbers and a good Georgia title for six number 9140430023 that we crushed years and years ago. The high bidder can buy this title and number set for an additional $500.00 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Is this legal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 30 2008, 01:58 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
No, It's not legal. Well, to sell a car with 6 numbers when they don't belong there. The cars that are retagged are not oto be sold as legal cars anymore. I had to check on this. One of our So. Cal. guys screwed me when I thought I bought my first 914 and the car was tagged as a '72 but was really a '75. I checked what my recorse would be and was told that the guy that sold me the car would have his life turned upside down with investigations. I decided it wasn't worth ruining someones life and just bit the bullet. Tough loss and still would like to break his knees................ If I ever make it down to Costa Messa again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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championgt1 |
Apr 30 2008, 02:05 PM
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Don't embarrass me Filmore! Group: Members Posts: 2,680 Joined: 3-January 07 From: Tacoma, Washington Member No.: 7,420 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I can't believe that you would actually put that in an E bay ad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)
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rhodyguy |
Apr 30 2008, 02:15 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,082 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
"would you believe a reproduction stacked elbow is as good as an original oem one?"
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736conver |
Apr 30 2008, 02:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None |
No, It's not legal. Well, to sell a car with 6 numbers when they don't belong there. The cars that are retagged are not oto be sold as legal cars anymore. I had to check on this. One of our So. Cal. guys screwed me when I thought I bought my first 914 and the car was tagged as a '72 but was really a '75. I checked what my recorse would be and was told that the guy that sold me the car would have his life turned upside down with investigations. I decided it wasn't worth ruining someones life and just bit the bullet. Tough loss and still would like to break his knees................ If I ever make it down to Costa Messa again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Kind of makes you wonder how many "rebadged" cars are out there. I dont like it that a prominent 914 source is advocating this. Sends a bad message. |
Eric_Shea |
Apr 30 2008, 02:31 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
George,
* No numbers. * Can title it with numbers from a car that was crushed years ago. You're supposed to be running a legitimate, upstanding business. Just the fact that you have a -6 chassis with the numbers cut off it makes others wonder... "Where exactly did those numbers go?" I don't understand why you wouldn't simply cut out the motor mount (not shown in the picture... probably already gone), take out that dash, remove the engine lid with the light weight springs and sell those pieces. Rear quarters could be blasted so the original early lip rear openings could be sold. As f'd up as that tub is, you could still manage to net close to a grand by selling the parts legitimately. This kind of stuff continues to make you look bad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
Eric_Shea |
Apr 30 2008, 02:33 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE I dont like it that a prominent 914 source is advocating this. Sends a bad message. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) V-E-R-Y bad message. |
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