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> Serious: Totaled my 914 yesterday, everyone OK :(
Dr Evil
post Apr 28 2008, 08:36 AM
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I had Chris (type11969) over the night after the swap meet and we had a great time. He stayed up until 0430 playing cards with Noel and Heidi while I had to retire at 0130 due to the fact I hadn't gotten any sleep from the previous nights. We woke up well rested on Sun and headed out for some brunch. Chris let me drive his 76 westy so I could see how it worked and it was great. When we got back I offered to take Chris for a ride in my car to help fuel his inspiration for completing his. I decided to take him on the road by my house that has one nice long S and a sharp S followed by 2 nice straights. I have driven this road for 3 years and have taken my 914 down it many times. I dont like to drive outside my comfort zone, especially with a passenger so I was fairly tame. I hit the final tight S from a 35mph road to a suggested (yellow sign) 20mph. I made the first part of the S, a right hander, but upon turning for the left part my rear broke loose for reasons I am still pondering. I fished right, steer right, fished left, steer left, back right and that is when the rear wheels left the road and lost traction in the dirt and gravel on the side of the road. The car slid side ways impacting the passenger side against a pole right at the front seam of the passenger door. Chris sustained some broken teeth and some lacerations to his eyebrow, cheek, and lower lip on the right side. Many bystanders stopped to help and one had a first aid kit so I triaged Chris at the scene just before the EMS showed up. They looked him over and recommended that he get the lacerations stitched up and I said I was gonna take him to the ER at Hershey.
I took Chris home, helped clean him up and then we all went to the ER which was thankfully pretty empty. I hung out with Chris the whole time while the girls waited in the waiting room. He is doing well, but his face is swollen a bit and he is going to see the dentist today. The guy is a real trooper. He stayed an extra night at our house and the girls took care of him making him smoothies and home made mashed potatoes.
I am still trying to figure out what was so different to help this accident happen. I made it through the first part of the S fine and the second was not the hard turn. There was no skid marks. I didnt see any gravel, but will go back today to check it out and see if there was something I missed. This is a learning experience that I can not afford to ignore and want to glean every bit I can from it so it will never happen again. I cant begin the put into words the amount of guilt I feel about Chris getting injured. I am just thankful it was not any worse.

I'll get pics as soon as I can so ya'll can maybe learn something or put in your $.02 about what you think happened. The only thing I can think is that I braked too hard , but that doesnt make sense to me since it was the second part of the S and I was in control up to that point.

I am OK physically. Only a bruised knuckle and a nice bruise and abrasion on my left shoulder form the seatbelt. That, and my mind is a little scrambled so if this post is not too linear in thought you know why. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I will be calling the insurance company today and intend to harvest the parts from my car. I will likely need help in valuating it. Too much to think about.

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post Apr 28 2008, 08:42 AM
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JEEZ Mike, that is awful news. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I glad you guys walked away pretty much intact.

Can't really help on speculating on the cause but something led up to it.

Hope you guys heal fast...
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post Apr 28 2008, 08:49 AM
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First off, damn..glad you guys are ok..
I would suggest, cold tires, extra wieght (you normally drive alone)
You may have carried to much speed into the corner, and with the extra weight you were braking harder...therefore more weight transfer to the front and cold tires (it was pretty cold) will handle like you are on ice...

I have a set of summer tires that are like driving on ice this time of year...

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post Apr 28 2008, 08:50 AM
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Good news-everyones alive

get well soon

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post Apr 28 2008, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 28 2008, 10:49 AM) *

First off, damn..glad you guys are ok..
I would suggest, cold tires, extra wieght (you normally drive alone)
You may have carried to much speed into the corner, and with the extra weight you were braking harder...therefore more weight transfer to the front and cold tires (it was pretty cold) will handle like you are on ice...

I have a set of summer tires that are like driving on ice this time of year...

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Yup, I am thinking cold tires as well. It was colder that Sun that it had been. More cold = less stick. These were 255s on the back after all.
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post Apr 28 2008, 08:54 AM
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Ah man, I'm sorry to hear this. I'm glad no one was hurt seriously. I'm sure I'm not alone in offering whatever I can. Whatever parts I have are yours for the asking. Maybe we can organize something like the Jenny rebuild.

For what it's worth, try not to be too hard on yourself, Lord knows we have all put ourselves and passengers at similar risk. I can't explain why I haven't had a similar accident. Grace, Karma, fate, luck, who knows? Sometimes your number just comes up. Thankfully it wasn't worse.

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post Apr 28 2008, 09:01 AM
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Bummer Evil, I am sorry to hear that. I am glad you two will be ok.
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:03 AM
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Sorry to here about this. maybe you don't want to post too much about this yet. If I can help pm me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:04 AM
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That sucks Doc, sorry about your car. Glad everyone is alright, cars can be fixed.
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:06 AM
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See if the trailing arm on the right side failed somehow. I'm glad you guys are essentially OK.

This will keep you from getting bored with all that free time you have. Ha.
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:06 AM
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Thanks guys. It is true that the most important things to me are that Chris is OK, I am OK and that he and I are still friends. I cant imagine ever laughing about this at a later date, though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:11 AM
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Jeez Doc sorry about the teener but glad everyone made it out OK.
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:12 AM
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Wow!!

Sorry to hear about this...BTDT... Glad everyone is ok, heal quick, get well.

I know I was out of 914's for about 10 years after mine...

The worst part is the hurt to others...that takes awhile to get over (if ever)..

Just take it day by day... For sure keep the car and all the parts. Even if in the back of the garage for now...

take care, get well....
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:14 AM
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Wow, glad it was not more serious.

Take Ricks advice, keep quiet, give him a call and get the ball rolling.

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post Apr 28 2008, 09:18 AM
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PM sent, Rick. Thanks.
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:19 AM
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Back in the day...I did a road curve that I had down may times at about 80% and ended up losing it and rolling. After a broken proboscis and the tow home, the subsequent inspection found a broken nose cone on the fully synchronized tranny we installed.

58 Karmann Ghia with a 1835cc Type I.....the cone was a welded conversion piece that allowed using a later model tranny replacing early crashbox. Engine, trans, wheels went sideways and I turned turtle....I still have dreams 30 years later. I ened up against a berm over a 200 foot drop on the Angeles Crest Highway.....

So I agree....do some Forensic stuff and see what happened.....

BTW, you gonna fix it, part it, transfer parts or what?

BTW2, glad you and the co-pilot are OK....
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:20 AM
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OUCH!!! The main thing is that there's no major injuries. What a bummer Mike, especially after all the trouble you've been through with your engine. Major sympathies your and Chris' way.
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:21 AM
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Glad to hear your OK, sorry about the car and you and your friends injuries. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Hope things turn out well in the long run.
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:23 AM
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I accidently posted in the wrong thread....


Sorry about the accident. Will this jumpstart a 2.7 in a bus project?
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:26 AM
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Mike - So Sorry but very glad everyone walked away from it. One thing I didn't read was the weather conditions. Spoken as a true Californian - with 90 degree weather yesterday - was it cold enough for black ice?

Again - cars can be replaced, glad to hear you two are okay. Hang in there and if you need anything let me know.

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