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| ericread |  May 5 2008, 11:08 AM 
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| The Viper Blue 914     Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California  | To try and apply California logic to what go on in the southern states will never work, do not even try. My Question for George is How many of these cars are going over to other countries each year and if so which ones? Slits, the answer to your question is; that car is in the process of restoration. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Oh, good question. I keep hearing about teeners being purchased and shipped overseas, but how prevelent is that? George and Jake; have you seen a big blip in business from overseas owners? And if this is true, how is that affecting the valuation of our cars. One more question. Which do you think will climb in value the most; A moderately stock 914 or one that has been updated with six-cylinder engines and flares? For future valuation purposes, is it better that I keep my 75 2.0L 914 mostly stock? Thanks! | 
| dr914@autoatlanta.com |  May 5 2008, 11:50 AM 
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| 914 Guru      Group: Members Posts: 8,214 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None  | To try and apply California logic to what go on in the southern states will never work, do not even try. My Question for George is How many of these cars are going over to other countries each year and if so which ones? Slits, the answer to your question is; that car is in the process of restoration. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Oh, good question. I keep hearing about teeners being purchased and shipped overseas, but how prevelent is that? George and Jake; have you seen a big blip in business from overseas owners? And if this is true, how is that affecting the valuation of our cars. One more question. Which do you think will climb in value the most; A moderately stock 914 or one that has been updated with six-cylinder engines and flares? For future valuation purposes, is it better that I keep my 75 2.0L 914 mostly stock? Thanks! Many many are now going overseas three reasons: 914s are more popular than ever before very few were sold in Europe compared the the U.S. and all of the euro cars rusted away, and finally the exchange rate! We are doing a lot of business in Europe with the parts actually for all of the older Porsche models. It helps that Mia speaks German French Dutch and Flemish (as well as English...(too bad that she does not speak Spanish!!)) Always keep the 914 as stock as possible for the highest future value. (that does not mean that you can bolt on fun parts to more enjoy your car like wheels tires a radio some mats and a steering wheel, but keep all of the originals. | 
| Cevan |  May 5 2008, 01:03 PM 
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| Senior Member    Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 11-December 06 From: Western Massachusetts Member No.: 7,351  | In terms of future value, how might the backdating of '75 bumpers to chromies impact it? | 
| championgt1 |  May 5 2008, 02:00 PM 
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| Don't embarrass me Filmore!     Group: Members Posts: 2,682 Joined: 3-January 07 From: Tacoma, Washington Member No.: 7,420 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  | According to this site there were 5597 2.0 cars built in 1974. Is there anyway to tell how many of each color rolled off the assembly line? My car is Olympic blue and it would be nice to know how many were produced in this color. | 
| SLITS |  May 5 2008, 02:03 PM 
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| "This Utah shit is HARSH!"           Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None    | Answer this question: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=83590 He bought the stuff from you ................. | 
| LvSteveH |  May 5 2008, 03:02 PM 
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| I put the Poor in Porsche    Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Member No.: 600  | Answer this question: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=83590 He bought the stuff from you ................. I could be wrong, but I believe they are referring to AA brand pistons as opposed to being purchased from Auto Atlanta. | 
| SLITS |  May 5 2008, 04:06 PM 
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| "This Utah shit is HARSH!"           Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None    | Answer this question: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=83590 He bought the stuff from you ................. I could be wrong, but I believe they are referring to AA brand pistons as opposed to being purchased from Auto Atlanta. AA ... hmmmm .... turn 'em upside down, they all look the same to me. | 
| Rand |  May 5 2008, 06:58 PM 
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| Cross Member      Group: Members Posts: 7,413 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None  | How is it possible they could even conceive of putting the words "rust free" in this ad? edit: Dangit, I gotta stop posting in these threads. | 
| SLITS |  May 5 2008, 07:20 PM 
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| "This Utah shit is HARSH!"           Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None    | As Clinton once said, "It depends upon what your definition of  Nothing more need be said. | 
| TROJANMAN |  May 5 2008, 08:49 PM 
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| Looks nice in pictures.........      Group: Members Posts: 5,275 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None  | I have a couple new questions. Who typed up the following ad? How is it possible they could even conceive of putting the words "rust free" in it? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-3573-1210035684.jpg) Just in case it gets pulled down, parts of the actual ad from the screen capture are attached. I wonder what that brown stuff eating holes across the bottom of the firewall is? Not to mention the stuff you can see from across the parking lot. (Subject to approved credit. VIN tags may not match vehicle at time of sale) (IMG:http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/used-car-salesman.jpg) | 
| Joe Bob |  May 5 2008, 08:54 PM 
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| Retired admin, banned a few times                Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None  | I think this thread just blew any future 914 world price discount..... | 
| Eric_Shea |  May 5 2008, 09:05 PM 
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| PMB Performance                Group: Admin Posts: 19,304 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains    | QUOTE (Subject to approved credit. VIN tags may not match vehicle at time of sale) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) | 
| WaideS |  May 6 2008, 02:59 PM 
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| Has been   Group: Members Posts: 220 Joined: 25-January 06 From: Valley of the Sun Member No.: 5,475 Region Association: None  | QUOTE It is all in the intent. If the intent is to deceive then it is obviously illegal and anyone who does it should be prosecuted to the fullest intent of the law. Plus these cheaters are just trying to make a fast buck by deception.  You are getting very sleepy. Concentrate on the watch. Feel your eyes getting heavier and heavier... OK... now; remember, it's all in the intent, it's all in the intent. I'm the good guy. I'm trying to save poor rusted hulks. I'm trying to preserve the ever so loved 914 and 914-6. When I snap my fingers you will wake up and feel a tremendous love for me. You will honor and obey me. I "am" Dr. 914. The savior of the 914 and the 914-6. I was offering a title and VIN numbers off a long crushed 914-6 for the good of the community... for the good of the car. I am good. God is good. ***SNAP*** OK George, I've self admittedly gone a bit overboard here but the facts are the facts: This week you openly offered the VIN numbers and a good title to said VIN numbers for $500.00 in an eBay ad for an extremely trashed POS tub which you had also cut the VIN numbers out of... they must have been sold already otherwise they'd be offered for sale with the tub. If anyone knows how many 914-6's have been cloned, my bet is; you would know the answer. It's obvious that you're far away from a "Come-to-Jesus" moment that this practice of cutting out 914-6 VIN's and placing them on "other" tubs is W-R-O-N-G wrong, so begins the tap dancing session of "it's all in the intent" and "I'm a licensed rebuilder" and "I turn in car thieves". You are "never" going to convince me that this act is of honorable "intent". You're never going to convince me that this is anything but "deceit". Do you honestly think that rusted hulk you were intent on selling along with another cars VIN numbers would have been stamped "rebuilt" or "salvaged"? What is your duty in all this as the good Dr. overseeing all things 914? Would you have followed through after the sale to make sure it was rebuilt properly -or- might you have simply dumped those VIN's in a padded envelope and sent them to the John Doe buyer who very well may be the "unscrupulous rebuilder and retailer" that the government so "thankfully" tightened the laws down on? Think about it; you were offering for sale the tools to get a salvaged car a clean title. That makes you one of them in my book... and it's a sad day. Tap dance all you want but, I'm extremely disappointed in you and the fact that you're still here trying to explain away your righteousness on this extremely WRONG act. Bummer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Eric Shea, they said you were funny, but I didn't believe them.....I stand corrected | 
| 736conver |  May 6 2008, 03:06 PM 
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| Advanced Member     Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None  | QUOTE (Subject to approved credit.  VIN tags may not match vehicle at time of sale) (IMG:http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/used-car-salesman.jpg) Thats got to go on the cover of their catalog. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) | 
| grantsfo |  May 6 2008, 03:38 PM 
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| Arrrrhhhh!     Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None  | Jake,  Are you lowering your standards again?  Why tarnish your brand image by having any association with AA? Nothing like diluting you premium image?  Whats next a 4 verses 6 discussion with Motormeister? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)  | 
| Jake Raby |  May 6 2008, 04:03 PM 
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| Engine Surgeon      Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States  | I have no need to justify my decision to have George on my Radio show.. he is simply a guest that is passionate about these cars and keeping them on the road.. Thats all I give a shit about. Passionate people that are willing to spend their money to keep these cars on the road are hard to come by.. Just because Jay Leno has someone on his show thats controversial doesn't lower his standards any more than having george on my show will lower mine... | 
| grantsfo |  May 6 2008, 06:03 PM 
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| Arrrrhhhh!     Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None  | Passionate people that are willing to spend their money to keep these cars on the road are hard to come by.. Thats not my expereince. And think you might find a differing opinion from several of the shops in the SF Bay region that work on 914's regularly. Tons of very nice 914's here on the West Coast that people are putting some decent money into. It always suprises me when I stop into shops here and see so many nice well maintained 914's. I think we had 14 914's show up to an AX earlier this spring! I think if you were to be local and trusted in SF Bay Area you would have booming 914 engine business. Lots of people here who never go on the forums with very nice 914's with thousands of dollars invested with local shops. I know of 5 fairly expensive 914-6 conversions going on here in the Bay Area right now. We even have a couple Raby powered cars showing up to events now when they are running. I think you underestimate the enthusiasm and williness to spend money that the larger offline 914 community has - you just need to figure out how to reach that market better. This post has been edited by grantsfo: May 6 2008, 06:04 PM | 
| Jake Raby |  May 6 2008, 07:12 PM 
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| Engine Surgeon      Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States  | You'll see how I am reaching "Those people" soon.. But we can't keep up with what we have now and I damn sure don't want an left coast division of RAT... I am perfectly happy exactly where we are in every regard... Trying to slow down the engine shop is currently my overall goal.. | 
| ConeDodger |  May 6 2008, 07:33 PM 
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| Apex killer!                Group: Members Posts: 24,222 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California    | Jake, I find George's statement that the 3.0 liter motor is the best conversion engine for the 914 interesting. Can you ask him to expand on this statement. Obviously context confounds. Is he speaking of a street car with a stockish 901? I have ridden in a 3.6 conversion and the sensation of rocket ship could not be denied. This was very much a street car with all the creature comforts except AC. What is it about the 3.0 that makes George think it is best? I am not challenging him I just want to know why. My 3.2 Carrera really wakes up just over 4k RPM. I wonder if that would be a detriment in a 914. I have never ridden or driven a 3.0 powered car so I am not familiar with the engines character. | 
| flippa |  May 6 2008, 07:43 PM 
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| Advanced Member     Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 7-May 07 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 7,720 Region Association: North East States  | How is it possible they could even conceive of putting the words "rust free" in this ad? edit: Dangit, I gotta stop posting in these threads. "rust free" = no additional charge for all that rust (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) | 
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