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> Old School Bumpers, retrofitting to a 76
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post Jan 21 2004, 07:36 PM
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post Jan 21 2004, 07:37 PM
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post Jan 21 2004, 07:38 PM
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post Jan 21 2004, 07:39 PM
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post Jan 21 2004, 07:40 PM
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post Jan 21 2004, 07:41 PM
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post Jan 21 2004, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Jan 21 2004, 06:07 PM)
Another thought (I feel like Miles).

Funny, I do too. What the hell is it with people?


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post Jan 21 2004, 07:55 PM
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Sorry a couple of pics were out of sequence. One thing you need are the "dogbones" those are the rubber spacers for the front and rear bumpers. These will give you a guide where the holes that you need to drill are going to be located.
Also touchup paint is needed as you can see from the pictures.
After you have the holes drilled, get a longer bolt that will fit in the bumper and use it to hold the bumper(front ) in place while you put in the stock type bolts.
Also get new bolts and washers, I use stainless steel, just because I would prefer them not to rust in place.
Another thing when fitting the bumpers in either the front or rear,. Put tape of some kind on the areas that the bumper may touch and might scratch the body.
In the photos you will see that the front trunk seal needs to have the bodywork bent up to form a channel for the seal.
You do not have to do this , but I don't. Plus I do not glue the front trunk seals in place. You should remove them and clean the channel out, of any glue or dirt or rust, touch up with paint and wax the channel so that fluids do not collect and corrode the bodywork.
Just so you have an idea, the bumpers (triple chrome,filling lic.plate holes),and top rubbers and all hardware, totaled, $1500. on JLO
Any questions I will be happy to answer.
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post Jan 21 2004, 08:07 PM
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Yep, its pretty easy to do as Craig showed. Fabing the rear rubber support piece takes abit of doing but its not hard.
I have $250 into the used early chrome bumpers,fogs,good rubber tops. Still need to finish the painting as I found some rust under the late bumper covers.

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post Jan 22 2004, 12:18 AM
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Very nice photos.

If you are going with the round fogs up front, don't you need to fab a bracket also?
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post Jan 22 2004, 12:37 AM
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Round fogs, ahh another problem. I have found a stainless steel nut that I drill a hole in the front area where fog lights mount on the early bumper cars. It has a flange around it with three small holes that I enlarge slightly and then I pop rivet them into place. Takes two, one on each side. The stock allen bolt for the fog lights fits perfect.
I just went out to take a pic of one, I am out. Guess I better figure out where I got those.
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post Jan 22 2004, 08:20 AM
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Bleyseng, when you say fabbing the rear supports what do you mean ?
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post Jan 22 2004, 08:35 AM
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Craig and Geoff,

Thanks for the great photos and info. I have a 76 so I know what its metalwork looks like, but could you explain what is needed to support the early type rubber tops, front and rear? Geoff mentions support pieces. Thanks.

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post Jan 22 2004, 08:42 AM
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Good morning guys, The front bumpers have no real supports like the rear. The rear bumper has a small support that sticks out from the body just above where the lic plate is located. The rear top bumper rubber has a threaded stud sticking out of it that fits into that support. I have not had a problem with the center support not being present on the cars that I have retro fitted. The four bolts that you secure into the chrome bumpers are what hold the bumper on. The center support is only for the top bumper rubber and unless you have one that has no inner steel( you can't see it so don't worry about it) then it will stay in place.
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post Jan 22 2004, 08:54 AM
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Thanks for posting the photos. I don't have access to any whole early cars. I found this picture on all914.com. I've circled the bracket.


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post Jan 22 2004, 09:34 AM
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Now I see.

Thanks Craig and Kafermeister.

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post Jan 22 2004, 09:46 AM
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For the early fogs I used a blind nut which is the right size to accept the allen bolt. You drill the hole, in push it in and then tighten it up with this gizmo. I expands and locks into place just like the OEM one except its not welded in place.

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post Jan 22 2004, 05:59 PM
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Here is a pic of the "tee nuts" that I use for the foglights, along with a new allen allen bolt. You will also wnat to add a flat washer and a lock washer. All items are stainless steel.
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post Jan 22 2004, 07:46 PM
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For the early fogs I used a blind nut which is the right size to accept the allen bolt. You drill the hole, in push it in and then tighten it up with this gizmo. I expands and locks into place just like the OEM one except its not welded in place.

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Whaaaa!?!?! Pics please. Thanks Geoff.
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