 Installing a V-8...a few questions, Progress thread & 914 makeover |
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| jimkelly |
 May 29 2008, 04:57 PM
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Delaware USA  Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region  |
throttle cables - what are you guys using - stock or custom?
how are you routing it? i am stuggling with this. Jim Attached image(s) 
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| marks914 |
May 29 2008, 05:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 9-October 04 From: the motor city Member No.: 2,912 Region Association: None |
Here is mine, an extended terry cable, it came with the attachment to the bellcrank as well. Mine is 18" longer, but you could get away with 12"
Mark (IMG:http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/39860/2690622020057582025S600x600Q85.jpg) |
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| cobra94563 |
May 29 2008, 07:11 PM
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Chris Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 1-March 05 From: San Francisco Member No.: 3,696 |
I currently using the STOCK throttle cable pulling up the passenger side with a holley running backwards.
I tried a edelbrock, as you have, and also used the stock cable on the driver side and a plate attached to the throttle lever, and pulled from the low side of the acrb. I took the carb off to rebuild it, so no pics available. (didn't seem smooth, but I didn't get a chance to play with the spring tension.) If I ever have to buy a new cable, i'll probably get a custom. |
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| computers4kids |
May 29 2008, 11:38 PM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
Well, I came home tonight after work and felt like turning a wrench so I headed for the garage. I went ahead and bolted a sideshifter up to the chevy v-8. I was glad to see once I had pulled the tailshifter which was on there, I saw the a new 9 inch two stage Sachs clutch...yes, the PO had purchased the upgrade clutch package.
Things were moving along, so I figured I would try to see how the motor was going to fit. That was easier than installing a 4! I feel like I'm making progress...the motor is now bolted in place and clearances are good...by pulleys, sides, and the lid will close. I will have to cut the brace on the lid. Anyway, that's enough for today. Oh...I did notice that the housing that bolts to the water pump was not tight and on closer inspection was just loosely attached with no gasket. Will I find that gasket at FLAPS?...or do I need to source it from Renegade. I guess I could make one as well. Attached image(s) 
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| plymouth37 |
May 29 2008, 11:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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If I remember correctly the gasket you need is off of a 70's big block V-8 Chrysler water pump. That should at least get you close.
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| jmmotorsports |
May 30 2008, 08:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: 15-August 06 From: Kelso,Wa. Member No.: 6,658 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(computers4kids @ May 29 2008, 10:38 PM)  Well, I came home tonight after work and felt like turning a wrench so I headed for the garage. I went ahead and bolted a sideshifter up to the chevy v-8. I was glad to see once I had pulled the tailshifter which was on there, I saw the a new 9 inch two stage Sachs clutch...yes, the PO had purchased the upgrade clutch package. Things were moving along, so I figured I would try to see how the motor was going to fit. That was easier than installing a 4! I feel like I'm making progress...the motor is now bolted in place and clearances are good...by pulleys, sides, and the lid will close. I will have to cut the brace on the lid. Anyway, that's enough for today. Oh...I did notice that the housing that bolts to the water pump was not tight and on closer inspection was just loosely attached with no gasket. Will I find that gasket at FLAPS?...or do I need to source it from Renegade. I guess I could make one as well. The gasket should be a Fel-Pro 11730 Jerry |
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| BIGKAT_83 |
May 30 2008, 02:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States 
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The stock cable works fine if mounted correct. I did make the cable mount alot higher in order to open the carb all the way.
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| computers4kids |
Jun 1 2008, 10:04 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
More progress...installed exhaust, prepped the front trunk and installed the radiator. I pulled the valve cover for fun to take a peek...brand new built 305 with roller rockers to boot. Today, I hope to run the coolant lines and reinstall the gas tank.
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| computers4kids |
Jun 2 2008, 12:45 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
After cooking breakfast and some family time...I headed for the garage. Today I ran all the coolant lines under the car, hung the coolant resevoir can, a overflow jug, installed the gas tank and put the front end stuff back together.
I going to need some help on the cutting of the front bumper. I have a very nice early bumper with good chrome...will a plasma cutter cut an opening without screwing up the bumper? I want to put somekind of grill in the opening?? I see renegade offers a spoiler, still looking for options. I will also need to either cut or buy a dual opening rear valance. OK...enough babble, here's some pics. Attached image(s)  
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| computers4kids |
Jun 2 2008, 12:46 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
radiator lines & front trunk compartment (gas tank, etc)
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| rhodyguy |
Jun 2 2008, 12:55 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,063 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
which one of the cars in your signature is that? nice progress. narrow body car right? what a sleeper!!! haha.
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| computers4kids |
Jun 2 2008, 01:15 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jun 1 2008, 11:55 PM) which one of the cars in your signature is that? nice progress. narrow body car right? what a sleeper!!! haha. k It's the 75 that I stripped down and now is primer. Was going to put Jamie's motor in, but decided to go to the darkside instead. No flairs, atleast not right now. Should be a kick to drive. It will have a built, high reving 305 that should push 300 hp...we'll see. |
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| rhodyguy |
Jun 2 2008, 01:19 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,063 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
does your engine require premium fuel? nice to have a big parts stash to gleen the nice stuff from isn't it. 'like money in the bank honey'
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| computers4kids |
Jun 2 2008, 08:21 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jun 2 2008, 12:19 AM) does your engine require premium fuel? nice to have a big parts stash to gleen the nice stuff from isn't it. 'like money in the bank honey' k It will run on regular gas. Good parts are like gold, one of the few things that our economic slow down hasn't effected. Although, I know I will regret selling those 2ltr stainless...they look like they're almost new. Funny thing about working on this project now, I acutually have to use some of my american tools...that was weird the first time I had to reach for a 9/16th wrench instead of a 13mm. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I guess that's part of the darkside. |
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| computers4kids |
Jun 5 2008, 09:03 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
Moving along...
Took all the brakes off and getting ready to replace all the rotors, pads and bearings. Probably going to put BMW calipers on the front for now. I'm ready to cut my front bumper...ouch, it's really too nice to cut (early). I lookiing for tips and tricks for cutting the bumper hole and adding a grill to it. I've seen a few out there....how did you do it? It's also time to lengthen the sideshifter rod. I've read about ideas of adding 1/1/4 inch up to 2 inches in length depending on your end goal. I'm not to sure if just some length is going to work for me. My oil pan is not the stock shape. It's some special pan that the PO had installed when the motor was built. It's shallower and has a wider girth...which may protrude too much for the curve of the rod???? I'll post a picture...it's a bit dark...I'll replace later with a better one. Attached image(s)  
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| JRust |
Jun 6 2008, 09:47 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Don't ruin a nice early front bumper! Find another used one better suited to cut on. You cut my bumper I'll kill you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) No seriously I would try to find another bumper to modify. Those early ones are hard to find in that shape.
If you really want to do something brake wise you need to go 5-lug. That is a pretty easy swap & gives you more brake options! You also have a much larger Wheel base to choose from (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) As far as extending your rod I get a bunch of emails in my spam everyday about this. I can forward you some f that wil help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| computers4kids |
Jun 9 2008, 05:52 PM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(JRust @ Jun 6 2008, 08:47 AM) Don't ruin a nice early front bumper! Find another used one better suited to cut on. You cut my bumper I'll kill you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) No seriously I would try to find another bumper to modify. Those early ones are hard to find in that shape. As far as extending your rod I get a bunch of emails in my spam everyday about this. I can forward you some f that wil help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) OK...smartass, I did lengthen my rod yesterday, without the help of magic pills. I cut the the rod on the straight section, threaded a good chunk of "all thread" which fit nicely. Adjusted length to be 1 /1/4 inch longer, checked to make sure fit good and then welded it into place. My wife is getting use to her new yard art...had to paint it! Oh yeah, I put those beautiful early chrome bumpers on my 74 driver, removing the painted ones...which I liked, but will have no problem cutting on for the v-8 project. Also fabbed a nice throttle bracket...getting closer. And, replaced all the rotors, pads, and installed new stainless lines. I might drive it a bit to determine how radical or not I need to go with the brakes etc. Attached image(s)  
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| JRust |
Jun 9 2008, 09:53 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(computers4kids @ Jun 9 2008, 04:52 PM) QUOTE(JRust @ Jun 6 2008, 08:47 AM) Don't ruin a nice early front bumper! Find another used one better suited to cut on. You cut my bumper I'll kill you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) No seriously I would try to find another bumper to modify. Those early ones are hard to find in that shape. As far as extending your rod I get a bunch of emails in my spam everyday about this. I can forward you some f that wil help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) OK...smartass, I did lengthen my rod yesterday, without the help of magic pills. I cut the the rod on the straight section, threaded a good chunk of "all thread" which fit nicely. Adjusted length to be 1 /1/4 inch longer, checked to make sure fit good and then welded it into place. My wife is getting use to her new yard art...had to paint it! Oh yeah, I put those beautiful early chrome bumpers on my 74 driver, removing the painted ones...which I liked, but will have no problem cutting on for the v-8 project. Also fabbed a nice throttle bracket...getting closer. And, replaced all the rotors, pads, and installed new stainless lines. I might drive it a bit to determine how radical or not I need to go with the brakes etc. Man I forgot all about my smart ass post! LMAO (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Reading it tonight |
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| computers4kids |
Jun 10 2008, 09:26 PM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
A little more progress today...the focus was bumper updates or should I say "bumper backdate."
I drilled the appropriate holes for the early bumpers (front and rear). I drilled and mounted early fog lights. Using Engman's late bumper block-offs (another great member product) I capped the late bumper shock holes. The engman block-off plates were designed for the fronts, but I made them work on the back holels has well. I then mounted my 74 bumpers on the car to check for fit...yes. When I get around to it...I'll pull the bumpers back off and weld-up the titty holes. Got luck today...everything went right. The front bumper still also needs to be modified for air flow...haven't decided what kind of opening I want to make...or the size of the opening. I've been looking and there's quite a variety out there. I'm really not sure how small I can go and still have efficient cooling here in the hot valley. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I really like the last picture's breather opening...but looks pretty small compared to others. Attached image(s)     
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| JRust |
Jun 10 2008, 10:19 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Looking good Mark! What color are you planning on painting it?
Making progress on mine too. Made a slight miscalculation on my clutch (needed a 200mm not a 215). Ended up ordering a new PP & clutch from Kennedy. Should be here thursday. Then I just need to put my tranny in & I am good to go. Oh & bleed my brakes |
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