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post May 28 2008, 11:21 PM
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August Issue of Excellence

http://www.excellence-mag.com/art1/art1p2.html

1973-74 914 2.0
Decent car, you stole it: $6,000-8,000
Nice car, decent money: $10,000-12,000
Insanely nice, high price: $17,000-22,000+
Watch out for: Rust, evidence of budget repairs, unspeakable and/or irreversible modifications, non-original engine, and trim-needy cars
Since there are a lot of these around, be sure to find an example in excellent condition, as the costs to restore a 914 are well ahead of its value, as is most always the case with the “undiscovered” Porsches. The big surprise here, should you be familiar with similar-year 911s, is how much fun a good 2.0 is to drive. You’ll be shocked and delighted at the broad powerband and pulling power of a good, stock 2.0, especially a 1973.
Stay away from cars without their original fuel injection, as there is a certain stigma associated with 914-4s converted to carburetors that implies previous owners were after a cheap and easy fix for fuel-injection woes. That said, there is a lively, but different, market for highly modified 914s with hot-rod four-cylinders and 911 engine conversions. When done well and tastefully, we suspect these modified 914s will hold their value. But as collectors have found for decades, most buyers will desire original cars.
Look very carefully for rust throughout the car and especially below the battery tray, rear trailing-arm mounts, jack points, and longitudinals (hiding behind the outer rocker covers). Chrome bumpers, factory alloy wheels, and period colors — such as one of several oranges, greens, or yellows —may add to the value. Any 914 you consider should have a clean interior, great brightwork, and good rubber seals. For a 914 especially, remember: condition, condition, condition. Find a 914 that’s as nice as possible — it will save you money in the long run.

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post May 29 2008, 06:59 AM
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It seems to be the same info that is well known to everybody here. However, the prices are overstated for this part of the country.
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post May 29 2008, 08:15 AM
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My belief is that the more our 914's are showcased in magazines like "Excellence", the more the base prices will continue to increase. This has, of course, both up-sides and down-sides. Higher costs for acquisition and parts, but better resale value and stronger support for increased insurance settlements.

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QUOTE(ericread @ May 29 2008, 07:15 AM) *

My belief is that the more our 914's are showcased in magazines like "Excellence", the more the base prices will continue to increase. This has, of course, both up-sides and down-sides. Higher costs for acquisition and parts, but better resale value and stronger support for increased insurance settlements.


The more people cut them up and dump boat anchor v8 in the the more the stock cars will be worth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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My belief is that the more our 914's are showcased in magazines like "Excellence", the more the base prices will continue to increase. This has, of course, both up-sides and down-sides. Higher costs for acquisition and parts, but better resale value and stronger support for increased insurance settlements.


The more people cut them up and dump boat anchor v8 in the the more the stock cars will be worth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

Not a word on factory 914-6 cars ???
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post May 29 2008, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(ericread @ May 29 2008, 07:15 AM) *

My belief is that the more our 914's are showcased in magazines like "Excellence", the more the base prices will continue to increase. This has, of course, both up-sides and down-sides. Higher costs for acquisition and parts, but better resale value and stronger support for increased insurance settlements.


The more people cut them up and dump boat anchor v8 in the the more the stock cars will be worth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

Not a word on factory 914-6 cars ???


I think that factory-6 cars are so rare they really don't fit into a standard pricing model. There are a lot of 914-6 cars out there today (defined in the article as highly-modified 914s), but true factory-6's are really becoming collector pieces and as such, don't really fit into the category of "Top Ten Undervalued Porsches".

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post May 29 2008, 10:54 AM
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The more people cut them up and dump boat anchor v8 in the the more the stock cars will be worth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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you know..my "boat anchor" weighs less than a six... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) maybe you have "torque envy"?
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QUOTE(ericread @ May 29 2008, 07:15 AM) *

My belief is that the more our 914's are showcased in magazines like "Excellence", the more the base prices will continue to increase. This has, of course, both up-sides and down-sides. Higher costs for acquisition and parts, but better resale value and stronger support for increased insurance settlements.


The more people cut them up and dump boat anchor v8 in the the more the stock cars will be worth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

Not a word on factory 914-6 cars ???


I think that factory-6 cars are so rare they really don't fit into a standard pricing model. There are a lot of 914-6 cars out there today (defined in the article as highly-modified 914s), but true factory-6's are really becoming collector pieces and as such, don't really fit into the category of "Top Ten Undervalued Porsches".


If thats the case the LE cars (one of which is pictured in the artical) would be evan more valuable since they are evan rarer than /6's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
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post May 29 2008, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(ericread @ May 29 2008, 07:15 AM) *

My belief is that the more our 914's are showcased in magazines like "Excellence", the more the base prices will continue to increase. This has, of course, both up-sides and down-sides. Higher costs for acquisition and parts, but better resale value and stronger support for increased insurance settlements.


The more people cut them up and dump boat anchor v8 in the the more the stock cars will be worth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

Not a word on factory 914-6 cars ???


I think that factory-6 cars are so rare they really don't fit into a standard pricing model. There are a lot of 914-6 cars out there today (defined in the article as highly-modified 914s), but true factory-6's are really becoming collector pieces and as such, don't really fit into the category of "Top Ten Undervalued Porsches".


If thats the case the LE cars (one of which is pictured in the artical) would be evan more valuable since they are evan rarer than /6's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)


I agree. It would be seemingly be pretty odd to get an "Insanely Nice" LE for $17,000!!!

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post May 31 2008, 12:45 PM
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I must say that it was nice to see a LE Creamcicle or Bumblebee in any form in Excellence. I can't remember any time in the past seeing a photo of one.
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I agree. It would be seemingly be pretty odd to get an "Insanely Nice" LE for $17,000!!!


I also agree however I wouldn't sell mine for $50,000 & she's been a Garage Queen her whole life! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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Better get those "euro" lenses off her before you try to enter it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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Better get those "euro" lenses off her before you try to enter it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

Older pic E- the Euros are on the six now, front & rear. I'm even re-doing the side stickers since they're also wrong in that pic. Anal? Yes I am (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) !
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post May 31 2008, 02:26 PM
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Am I wrong in thinking though that a really nicely done six conversion isn't going to be worth as much, if not more, than a nicely restored 4?
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post May 31 2008, 02:50 PM
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Am I wrong in thinking though that a really nicely done six conversion isn't going to be worth as much, if not more, than a nicely restored 4?

To the track guy yes, to the collector, probably not.
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Am I wrong in thinking though that a really nicely done six conversion isn't going to be worth as much, if not more, than a nicely restored 4?


All you have to do is look at the 356 and early 911 market, the original unmolested cars are wanted commodities and demand big $$$. Then again you don't see too many early 911's with a V-8 conversion.
I think it will be harder to sell a converted car than it will an original, you have to find someone with the same taste as you. The chopped up ones with the radiators up front will be worth a bunch..... if you consider the price of scrap metal these days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

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As far as 6 conversion cars, it seems as though there are (informed) buyers out there that know what it takes to put together a quality car, but since there's such a disparity on how a car was built, fair market value depends on the car and prospective buyers.

As far as LE's vrs factory 914-6's, let's be honest here. I doubt if you'll ever see LE's bring more than a few hundred to a thousand or so over a comperable '73 2.0, or loaded '74 2.0. They just aren't that different.

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god damnit! I'm sick of being treated like a leper because the DAPO put carbs on the car and a retarded engine!

At least i have GOOD carbs on my car. this statement(cheap ass put carbs on it) by snobby porschefiles always pisses me off.
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post Jun 4 2008, 03:20 PM
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god damnit! I'm sick of being treated like a leper because the DAPO put carbs on the car and a retarded engine!

At least i have GOOD carbs on my car. this statement(cheap ass put carbs on it) by snobby porschefiles always pisses me off.


Hey Purp! Having a boo-rattley day?

When you read the article you should note that the author mentions that historically, a number of FI 914's were converted to carbs as part of a quick-fix to a poor running engine. If that were the case, I would be wary too! However, in these more modern times, the proper installation of a good set of carbs does not necessarily indicate shoddy work.

If you are looking to pick up a mostly stock 914-4, you should probably look for the original FI setup. Just like many 356's that came with mechanical FI are probably more valuable with those units intact than ones that have been converted to carbs.

You should also keep in mind that the author had about a third of a page to discuss the 914. With this limited space, he really needed to stay within a single area, and he chose a stock 914.

In all, I believe the article supports the increasing base price of all of our 914s. Even your "carbed" one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) In actuality, if you use the article as a baseline, then add in any upgrades, your car probably rates pretty well on the list.

There. Time to go work out and get rid of your agressions! Or are you just having a little pre-wedding jitters? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) Don't sweat it. Marriage is only a committment for THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)


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I agree. It would be seemingly be pretty odd to get an "Insanely Nice" LE for $17,000!!!


I also agree however I wouldn't sell mine for $50,000 & she's been a Garage Queen her whole life! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


What makes them LE cars
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