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post Jan 23 2004, 04:31 PM
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Do it! Have one on my air-cooled dub (carbed) and one on my 914 (FI) and they work beautifully. If they only made pointless valve adjusting kit that was as simple...

But if you take away my valve adjusting, what fun is there in owning one of these cars? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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post Jan 23 2004, 04:32 PM
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They make a Pertronix Ignitor II* that doesn't burn out if you leave the key on.
Pertronix Site

The pointless ignition is called Ignitor.
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post Jan 23 2004, 06:50 PM
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About a year ago I installed a Compufire in our 1.7 without much trouble. I fired it up and the car ran fine but the distributor cap was "dancing" as the rotor spun. Seems that the stock rotor was too tall with the Compufire module; had to file down the base of the rotor to make it spin inside the cap without making the cap "dance'. When I e-mailed Compufire's tech line, found out other people had experienced the same problem; otherwise. runs fine.
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post Jan 23 2004, 11:35 PM
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Maybe I wasn't clear ... you can't use a Mallory on a D-Jet-equipped FI engine (no internal FI trigger points).

I'm not sure about an L-Jet-equipped engine, though. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the buzzkill last night. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

As you can see on my avatar it's mocked up almost ready to fire up. No trigger points on the Ljet. I've not heard it's not compatible.

You scared me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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post Jan 24 2004, 07:47 AM
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To all,

I have a STOCK 74 1.8 So can I also upgrade to the Pertronix too?
I'm new to this car, so forgive my silly question.
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post Jan 24 2004, 08:33 AM
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0396,

yup, you can.
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post Jan 24 2004, 08:50 AM
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I used to use them but I now just use points. Remember to carry a set of points and condensr with screws so you can put the points back in, and you will have too. As they like to fail 250 miles from home on a sunday night. Steve
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post Jan 24 2004, 08:58 AM
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seanery,
Thanks for the response..


Steve,

are you saying that it's best to stay 'stock' and leave the possible upgrades alone?


Sorry, I'm a little confused. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 24 2004, 09:23 AM
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petronix fail from time to time, but usually that failure occurs right away. Both of my teeners have petronix.
My recomendation is to get another one and keep it in the glove box. You don't have to do it right away, but when you can afford a second one just get it and put it in the gb.

that's just my opinion. I know some folks carry points, rotor, etc..but I'd rather carry the petronix.
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post Jan 24 2004, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(markd@mac.com @ Jan 23 2004, 02:32 PM)
They make a Pertronix Ignitor II* that doesn't burn out if you leave the key on.
Pertronix Site

The pointless ignition is called Ignitor.

Does what's-his-name have stock on the Ignitor-II?

I would concider upgrading if a group buy got the price low enough. (Need to re-curve the dizzy anyway...)
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post Jan 24 2004, 03:14 PM
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Group buy?

If so, and the price is right- I'll simply buy two. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 25 2004, 12:44 AM
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I got mine for $60 from a dealer off ebay.
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post Jan 25 2004, 12:08 PM
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So who was the dealer off Ebay?
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post Jan 25 2004, 12:49 PM
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I don't remember because it was over a year ago but a quick scan of ebay finds several dealers with similar prices. Here's one for $66 with free shipping:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2455780252
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post Jan 25 2004, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(anthony @ Jan 25 2004, 10:49 AM)
I don't remember because it was over a year ago but a quick scan of ebay finds several dealers with similar prices. Here's one for $66 with free shipping:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2455780252

Not to rain on your parade, but that's an Ignitor-I. Already got one installed.

I'm interested in getting an Ignitor-II; these engines are sensitive to dwell adjustments, and the Ignitor-II supposedly fixes that.

G.
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post Jan 25 2004, 12:56 PM
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Who's having a parade? I was answering eldiosyeldiablo's question.

BTW, if you look at Pertronix's application guide you'll see that there is no Ignitor II for our distributors.
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post Jan 25 2004, 01:28 PM
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Don't know anything about a parade, BUT you guys you know EMPI makes a pointless Ignition kit right?
My local auto foreign parts guys says he thinks pertronix or compufire makes them, they're $40.
I'll be buying it soon and give it a try.



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post Jan 25 2004, 02:19 PM
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you guys you know EMPI makes a pointless Ignition kit right?

Yup. BTDT. It's one of the reasons I like the Pertronix.
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post Jan 25 2004, 02:30 PM
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My sources tell me the Empi ones are made by compufire.
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post Jan 25 2004, 08:41 PM
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As they like to fail 250 miles from home on a sunday night.

Goin' on 3+ years and a buncha-thousand miles, haven't had to even look at my Ignitor, short of inspecting the cap & rotor.

It's all on how it's installed, and what additional loads you might possibly have connected to the coil that the company didn't anticipate during testing ...
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