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Torsion bar stuck!, Any suggestions? |
marks914 |
Jun 1 2008, 08:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 9-October 04 From: the motor city Member No.: 2,912 Region Association: None |
Last week my pass side tosion bar broke.
I got a set of stock t-bars and went to replace mine. The driver side went fine, took probably 10 minutes to r&r The pass side (the one that broke) is a different story. I cannot get the bar out of the control arm. I drilled a hole in the cap, soaked the end in kroil for a day, and I still cannot get it out. The broken part is at the back end, and it appears to not be hitting the interior wall of the tube. Any suggestions? besides buying a new control arm? Anyone have a control arm? Mark |
Gint |
Jun 1 2008, 08:13 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
At the back end? The back end is inserted into the torsion bar adjustment cap. Take the cap off. You pretty much have to to get the bar out anyway.
Did you pull the little cap off of the front of the a-arm to get the bar out? |
marks914 |
Jun 1 2008, 08:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 9-October 04 From: the motor city Member No.: 2,912 Region Association: None |
The bar is stuck at the front. The back 40mm was broken off abd basically fell out.
I was able to remove the adjuster with a little hammering. I drilled a 1/2" hole in the front cap, sprayed some kroyil in there overnight and I just bent a punch trying to drive it out this morning. I even tried to heat it. Mark |
smdubovsky |
Jun 1 2008, 08:35 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 27-September 04 From: Silver Spring, MD Member No.: 2,837 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Heat, kroil, punch, repeat. You're on the right track you just have to get "meaner" w/ it. Though, if you bent a 1/2" punch the a-arm might be toast;)
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majkos |
Jun 1 2008, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,370 Joined: 29-February 04 From: Mile High 914 Member No.: 1,729 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Heat, kroil, punch, repeat. You're on the right track you just have to get "meaner" w/ it. Though, if you bent a 1/2" punch the a-arm might be toast;) Yup (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Seeing you're in the motor city, you have a lot of rust to deal with. Ugh! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I feel for you Bro. I've tons of suspension parts. LMK if you need one. Pay for shipping and it's yours |
rhodyguy |
Jun 1 2008, 09:23 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
bigger hole in the front disc. more kroil. stouter punch. try using the narrow end of the broken bar piece and a 3lb maul.
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Gint |
Jun 1 2008, 09:35 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You can remove that little cap in the front. Punch it right out there and beat the bar from the front and out the back.
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rhodyguy |
Jun 1 2008, 09:41 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
no doubt the spines on the front end of the bar have a pretty good case of rust bond to the control arm. when you get it out (you will) remember to grease up the splines on both ends. do your control arms have the factory anti-swaybar brackets on them? i see you have an ad. if you're going to replace the c.a., be a little more specific in your needs.
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IronHillRestorations |
Jun 1 2008, 10:00 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,719 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
Remove the A arm.
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chris914 |
Jun 1 2008, 11:24 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 24-July 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 2,393 Region Association: Southern California |
I had the same problem. I tried all the tricks. In the ends it never came out. So I found a good used one for $40.00 and that included the whole front suspension of both sides.
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justme |
Jun 1 2008, 10:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 1-January 07 From: southampton ma atlantic northeast Member No.: 7,413 Region Association: North East States |
The bar is stuck at the front. The back 40mm was broken off abd basically fell out. I was able to remove the adjuster with a little hammering. I drilled a 1/2" hole in the front cap, sprayed some kroyil in there overnight and I just bent a punch trying to drive it out this morning. I even tried to heat it. Mark Hey Mark, Let me know if it doesn't come out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . I have a-arms that the t-bar's came out of. They have the factory sway bar tabs. BTW my speedo works, just no od, same deal with my 911 speedo. No OD. Good luck with the t-bar!! |
rhodyguy |
Jun 1 2008, 11:00 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
how much did you warm the end up? you may have heated up the fact bushing on the front end.
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Jeff Hail |
Jun 2 2008, 12:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,141 Joined: 3-May 07 From: LA/ CA Member No.: 7,712 |
Last week my pass side tosion bar broke. I got a set of stock t-bars and went to replace mine. The driver side went fine, took probably 10 minutes to r&r The pass side (the one that broke) is a different story. I cannot get the bar out of the control arm. I drilled a hole in the cap, soaked the end in kroil for a day, and I still cannot get it out. The broken part is at the back end, and it appears to not be hitting the interior wall of the tube. Any suggestions? besides buying a new control arm? Anyone have a control arm? Mark Take the arm out of the car, much easier to work on. If you can smack the bar with a hammer forward you will pop the brass end plug out. Much easier to remove the broken segment from the other end. You will probably have to fiddle with getting the splines aligned to remove the piece but it can be done. |
ConeDodger |
Jun 2 2008, 10:11 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,593 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Something I learned while working on my Datsun Z... There is a pin in the suspension that you can beat on for hours. I did. Then I went to Sears and asked them to show me their angriest hammer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I think that sucker weighs 12#. Two hits later I was done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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marks914 |
Jun 2 2008, 01:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 9-October 04 From: the motor city Member No.: 2,912 Region Association: None |
Took it to a shop by my house and bent the a-arm in the press. I have another a-arm on the way. Geeze!
Anyone need a bent a-arm with a broken torsion bar in it? Maybe I will use it in my broken 914 parts sculpture. I really shouldn't complain, this is the first problem I have had in a few years, the car has been really reliable believe it or not. Mark |
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