Upgrading to 911 swivel feet, what mods are required? |
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Upgrading to 911 swivel feet, what mods are required? |
benalishhero |
Jun 6 2008, 06:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 28-November 07 From: Portland, Maine Member No.: 8,384 Region Association: North East States |
Hey guys:
I'm looking to purchase 911 swivel feet for my 2.0. What modifications, if any, should I anticipate? TIA Cheers! |
type47 |
Jun 6 2008, 06:48 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
all i know is that the swivel feet require an (?) 8mm (7mm?) rocker as used in the early 1.7's as the later rockers are 10mm.
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SLITS |
Jun 6 2008, 06:49 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
1.) A set of 1.7/1.8 rockers
2.) Machine work to remove at least 0.060" off the screw adjustor end. |
type47 |
Jun 6 2008, 06:53 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
... even my 1.8's were 10mm
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SLITS |
Jun 6 2008, 06:56 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Ok, I'll revise it then 'cause I've seen 8mm on a 2.0
Get a set of rockers with 8mm adjustor screws! |
benalishhero |
Jun 6 2008, 07:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 28-November 07 From: Portland, Maine Member No.: 8,384 Region Association: North East States |
2.) Machine work to remove at least 0.060" off the screw adjustor end.
Do you mean shorten the new adjuster scews .060" on the threaded side. I'm assuming they will hit the V/C if I don't. The earlier rockers aside, Is this the only other mod? |
Cap'n Krusty |
Jun 6 2008, 07:32 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
The machining is done to the underside of the rocker arms, the side nearest the valve, to allow clearance for the thick swivel portion of the adjuster screw.
BTW, why do you call this an "upgrade"? The Cap'n |
benalishhero |
Jun 6 2008, 07:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 28-November 07 From: Portland, Maine Member No.: 8,384 Region Association: North East States |
BTW, why do you call this an "upgrade"? The Cap
Good question. I'm assuming it quiets the valves.? |
Cap'n Krusty |
Jun 6 2008, 08:27 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
No, not really. Clearance is clearance, and the clearance makes the noise. Besides, that, what in "quiets the valves" is an "upgrade"? If that's an upgrade, then hydraulic lifters would be an upgrade, despite the loss of power associated with that conversion.
The Cap'n |
VaccaRabite |
Jun 6 2008, 08:52 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I would not bother with this unless you are also upgrading your cam, lifters, rest of your valve train.
Zach |
Borderline |
Jun 6 2008, 10:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 8-February 05 From: San Juan Bautista, CA Member No.: 3,577 Region Association: Northern California |
The machining is done to the underside of the rocker arms, the side nearest the valve, to allow clearance for the thick swivel portion of the adjuster screw. BTW, why do you call this an "upgrade"? The Cap'n Cap'n: I take it by your tone that you don't consider this an upgrade? Would you care to enlighten us? I figured that anytime you could put on a 911 part it must be an upgrade. Also, the flat surface of the swivel adjuster would mate better with the top of the valve stem giving a little less friction as opposed to the point contact of the standard adjuster screw. Now that I think about it, the 911 swivel would not cause the valve to rotate as it slides across the stem. hmmm? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Cap'n Krusty |
Jun 6 2008, 11:47 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
You just answered your last question. Now, for the bad news. The premise "I figured that anytime you could put on a 911 part it must be an upgrade." prompts me the say "WHAT!"? Gonna throw a couple of extra spark plugs in there? Maybe some 911 seats? They don't fit, but "what the hell, they're 911" makes it good? Little duct tape and we're good to go ........ Gimme a break. Just 'cause they fit your big brother (or maybe your big sister) doesn't mean they're right for you ................. I could run with that, but I'm not that drunk. Yet.
The Cap'n |
rhodyguy |
Jun 6 2008, 11:53 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,079 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
testy tonight.
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benalishhero |
Jun 7 2008, 12:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 28-November 07 From: Portland, Maine Member No.: 8,384 Region Association: North East States |
So, to review, there are no advantages to switching to the swivel type adjusters? Are there any disadvantages? Besides cost and machining?
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VaccaRabite |
Jun 7 2008, 07:51 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There are advantages, once you start improving other aspects of your valve train.
I can't think of any disadvantages, other then cost. |
benalishhero |
Jun 7 2008, 03:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 28-November 07 From: Portland, Maine Member No.: 8,384 Region Association: North East States |
Vacca Rabite- Thank you.
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roadster fan |
Jun 7 2008, 04:20 PM
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Project Frankenstein !!!!!!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,009 Joined: 24-November 05 From: Aptos, CA Member No.: 5,184 Region Association: Northern California |
Ok i will bite. What are the advantages to the swivel feet once you start changing the other parts in the valve train? Easier to set geometry? Complete aircooled novice, so go easy on me.
Jim |
VaccaRabite |
Jun 7 2008, 06:49 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Lighter weight, stronger, and better engagement of the valve stem.
On a stock application, it is just overkill. On a hotter cam with bigger valve springs, you need it. It is not something that will give you more HP, it will just let your engine last longer using other hotter parts. Zach |
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