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914 air conditioning, What to do folks? |
dilde |
Jun 12 2008, 05:45 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 29-March 05 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 3,843 |
Hey guys & gals,
The York compressor in my '73 2.0 has finally died. I have already changed out the hoses previously to "barrier?" hoses which run 134a freon. I can get another rebuilt York I suppose, but I have heard of rotary compressors working better and using less hp to run. Has anyone already made the changeover? Are there any rotary compressors that fit properly? Do I need mounting brackets? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I live in So. Cal and gas is $4.65 as of today, which means the 914 will be on the road more than the F-150. And it's getting hot here! Scott |
McMark |
Jun 12 2008, 07:56 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
A more helpful parts store might have a picture/spec book for compressors that you could look through and find something. Or, you can search for other cars which used that same unit and see if someone else found anything. That compressor is not a 914 specific part, so it was undoubtedly used on other cars. Or there is always the idea of making an adapter plate.
I was just thinking about this today, and had a brainstorm. Run fluid lines inside of the seat upholstery, run a tiny A/C setup that will cool a fluid tank instead of cooling air, then pump the chilly fluid through the seats. I would think that the size of the A/C system would be very small. Maybe even small enough to run an electric compressor... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
TravisNeff |
Jun 12 2008, 08:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
That's a pretty crafty idea
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draperjojo |
Jun 12 2008, 08:29 PM
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sixstrings Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 26-December 05 From: Salt Lake City Utah Member No.: 5,317 |
You could check with these guys
http://www.iceac.com/germanproducts.html or call..........come on Dave, just say it........that one auto place down there in Marietta.............. |
LvSteveH |
Jun 12 2008, 08:30 PM
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I put the Poor in Porsche Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Member No.: 600 |
There's always option "B" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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ericread |
Jun 12 2008, 08:35 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
How about just hooking it up to a cool shirt!
Sorry, air conditioning is not the same as a cold seat. As for myelf, I take off the targa top and open the windows. |
computers4kids |
Jun 12 2008, 08:36 PM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
I bought a new Sanden508 off an ebay auction that runs on R134 and a new adapter plate that is made specially to bolt the 508 to the York bracket. Cost for the two with shipping was $200.
Now that I've gone to a v-8, I'm not to sure I will be using the parts. Attached image(s) |
dilde |
Jun 12 2008, 11:41 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 29-March 05 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 3,843 |
Thanks guys, especially for the laughs. I know there has to be a better way than just rebuilding the York.
Computers4kids, thanks. I knew I came to the right place. Any other suggestions welcomed. |
hcdmueller |
Jun 13 2008, 01:23 AM
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????????????? Group: Members Posts: 542 Joined: 4-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 5,527 Region Association: England |
Computers4kids, if you decide to get rid of the compressor setup PM me. I was debating tearing out my AC but lately it seems better to keep it.
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Gint |
Jun 17 2008, 05:27 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
There's always option "B" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-600-1213324253.jpg) |
McMark |
Jun 17 2008, 08:01 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Power Inverter + home A/C unit.
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davep |
Jun 17 2008, 10:47 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,137 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
I know about a spare condenser that is available.
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LvSteveH |
Jun 18 2008, 12:24 AM
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I put the Poor in Porsche Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Member No.: 600 |
What is that Steve?!?! McMark nailed it. I simile whenever I see that pic. |
maf914 |
Jun 18 2008, 09:52 AM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None |
The adapter bracket in Computers4kids post is available for $45 on e-bay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/York-to-San...emZ190138009435 I just wonder if it fits the York bracket used for the 914 A/C kits used by the dealers and how the Sanden compressor fits relative to the big York. I would like to know how much engine sheet metal needs to be cut or reshaped. I guess you just have to give it a shot.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
computers4kids |
Jun 18 2008, 10:54 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
The adapter bracket in Computers4kids post is available for $45 on e-bay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/York-to-San...emZ190138009435 I just wonder if it fits the York bracket used for the 914 A/C kits used by the dealers and how the Sanden compressor fits relative to the big York. I would like to know how much engine sheet metal needs to be cut or reshaped. I guess you just have to give it a shot.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Here's one install...not mine. I've seen it done without cutting the shelf as well. Attached image(s) |
maf914 |
Jun 20 2008, 08:26 AM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None |
Mark, Thanks for the photo. Looks like the engine tin still needs to be cut quite a bit. That is a clean engine compartment!
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thomasotten |
Jul 30 2008, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,544 Joined: 16-November 03 From: San Antonio, Texas Member No.: 1,349 |
Is this adapter all that is needed to bolt to the fan shroud, or do you need the old bracket as well? I'm confused.
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computers4kids |
Jul 30 2008, 01:37 PM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
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JRust |
Jul 30 2008, 02:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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JmuRiz |
Jul 30 2008, 04:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,423 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The adapter bracket in Computers4kids post is available for $45 on e-bay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/York-to-San...emZ190138009435 I just wonder if it fits the York bracket used for the 914 A/C kits used by the dealers and how the Sanden compressor fits relative to the big York. I would like to know how much engine sheet metal needs to be cut or reshaped. I guess you just have to give it a shot.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Here's one install...not mine. I've seen it done without cutting the shelf as well. Here's another link I got for a York to Sanden bracket from a Mercedes site I visit, you may check with this company about it: York to Sanden bracket |
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