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| james2 |
 Jun 28 2008, 03:49 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 28-June 08 From: Georgia Member No.: 9,225 Region Association: None  |
Hi,
Some people may know me from the VW boards. Had a 914 when i was 18 and always wanted another. even though I know very little about them. So i rushed out and bought three of them!! I have two 75's and a 73. I bought them from the same person. None run, but the 73 is a fairly nice looking car, rust free. One 75 is worth restoring, pretty complete, very little rust. The other 75 is a shell and has a lot of rust. Has engine, but it in a box, torn apart. All are missing original fuel injection- (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) None of them run. Question 1. How do I tell if the 73 has the 2.0 l or 1.7 litre engine without tear down? Question 2. Which car is more desirable, valuable, assuming both are the same shape, the 73 or 75. Question 3. Will a type 1 engine fit with the up right cooling, I have a 2332cc type 1with a DTM. Jake and me built it and Jake Raby dyno'd it at 210HP I want to build a type 4, but this motor would be fun until the type 4 was done. |
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| Todd Enlund |
Jun 28 2008, 04:01 PM
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Resident Photoshop Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,251 Joined: 24-August 07 From: Laurelhurst (Portland), Oregon Member No.: 8,032 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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QUOTE(james2 @ Jun 28 2008, 01:49 PM)  Question 1. How do I tell if the 73 has the 2.0 l or 1.7 litre engine without tear down? 2.0 has three studs on the intake manifold (one on each end and one in the middle), 1.7 has four (two in the middle). If it's a 2.0, engine number will have GA prefix, 1.7 will have EA or EB. Intake studs are a better indicator, because cases can be swapped. QUOTE(james2 @ Jun 28 2008, 01:49 PM) Question 2. Which car is more desirable, valuable, assuming both are the same shape, the 73 or 75. Most people would prefer the '73, by a large margin. QUOTE(james2 @ Jun 28 2008, 01:49 PM) Question 3. Will a type 1 engine fit with the up right cooling, I have a 2332cc type 1with a DTM. Jake and me built it and Jake Raby dyno'd it at 210HP I want to build a type 4, but this motor would be fun until the type 4 was done. I'd think it would be more trouble than it was worth. Others may be able to give you a better answer. |
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| james2 |
Jun 28 2008, 04:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 28-June 08 From: Georgia Member No.: 9,225 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the fast reply. I like the 73, because of the chrome bumpers.
problem is neither the seller or me knew much about the cars. I saw that they were cheap, and two are rust free, so i towed them home. I just checked, the 73 is a 2 litre by the info you have given. I have not picked up the 75 model cars. i will check them. most likely, i will sell the two 75 model cars. |
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| JRust |
Jun 28 2008, 04:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Other than an original 6 the 73 2.0 is themost sought after. If it is a stock 73 2.0 it is what you want. A stock 73 2.0 comes with the center console with gages. Also front & rear sway bars. Does it have Fcuh's or steelie's? Should have fuchs but they get changed around so you never know. Also the 73 doesn't have all the smog crap that came on them in 75 & 76. The 75 & 76 also have the big heavy rubber bumpers.
Sounds like you have a great start! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| Gint |
Jun 28 2008, 05:00 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,070 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
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| markb |
Jun 28 2008, 05:03 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California
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| james2 |
Jun 28 2008, 06:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 28-June 08 From: Georgia Member No.: 9,225 Region Association: None |
Ok, I'm , mine don't have the gages, or fuchs. But it does have three stud heads?
QUOTE(JRust @ Jun 28 2008, 02:43 PM) Other than an original 6 the 73 2.0 is themost sought after. If it is a stock 73 2.0 it is what you want. A stock 73 2.0 comes with the center console with gages. Also front & rear sway bars. Does it have Fcuh's or steelie's? Should have fuchs but they get changed around so you never know. Also the 73 doesn't have all the smog crap that came on them in 75 & 76. The 75 & 76 also have the big heavy rubber bumpers. Sounds like you have a great start! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| james2 |
Jun 28 2008, 06:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 28-June 08 From: Georgia Member No.: 9,225 Region Association: None |
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(IMG:http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3013/p1010306nd2.jpg) (IMG:http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7573/p1010307jn3.jpg) This the 73, I have to go back and get the 75s next Saturday. Is that the 2.0 head? |
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| james2 |
Jun 28 2008, 06:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 28-June 08 From: Georgia Member No.: 9,225 Region Association: None |
This the inside-
(IMG:http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4951/p1010309lz1.jpg) I got the door panel off because i need this part, the plastic is broken and the door won't open from outside. (IMG:http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7052/p1010311eq0.jpg) Hoping this is repoped. any place to get them? |
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| Joe Bob |
Jun 28 2008, 06:45 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
That plastic part is a common failure...if you are near Atlanta, try Auto Atlanta...just watch yer wallet. Sometimes it's cheaper to get stuff across country and pay freight. But George the owner does have some stuff that is hard to find.
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| Todd Enlund |
Jun 28 2008, 06:50 PM
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Resident Photoshop Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,251 Joined: 24-August 07 From: Laurelhurst (Portland), Oregon Member No.: 8,032 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(james2 @ Jun 28 2008, 04:20 PM) Ok, I'm , mine don't have the gages, or fuchs. But it does have three stud heads? Very few of these cars are original anymore... My guess is a 2.0 swapped into a 1.7 chassis. No console, no Fuchs, no sail vinyl... The door parts are available at Auto Atlanta and Pelican Parts. Looks like a nice car. |
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| james2 |
Jun 28 2008, 07:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 28-June 08 From: Georgia Member No.: 9,225 Region Association: None |
Thanks. got the part i needed off ebay. just ordered. 15.99 for a little plastic part. Guess these are not VW parts.
the 15.99 sounded cheap after looking at the 225 complete door handles. maybe i will keep one of the other cars for parts. Got a battery in it and she turns over.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Just came in to take a brake. hopeful she will be running soon. then I need to check the brakes and maybe the tranny will work....crosses fingers. been 25 years since i drove a 914. |
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